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The Role of Dissent
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Wed, 2 Apr 2003 20:22:51 GMT
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I, doubtless like many of you, have been watching the news, reading online
sources, and watching CSPAN (which is the recorded govt. in action of the
U.S. and often of England too). Well, I was watching "Poodle" Blair
yesterday and I got the idea that the English are not going to just let Bush
get away with anything he pleases once this war is over -- when the dust
settles people are going to expect Bush to actually do what he has claimed
all this time: free the Iraqi people to self-government. Reports of the
death of the U.N. may have been greatly exaggerated, sorry Richard Perle.
I am reminded of Viet Nam. Some think we were there for rubber trees. But
by the end of the nightmare, we had razed many a forest thanks to napalm --
hence no rubber trees. The difference between the stated agenda and the
true agenda made it impossible to achieve the latter while we failed at the
former.
In Iraq, the stated agenda has been to secure the world from WMD (which they
haven't yet found, BTW) and to remove Saddam from power (the regime change
which was never part of the U.N. agenda but is for some reason very much the
agenda of the U.S.). I believe the stated agenda to be a false one -- I
think we are there making a bid for control of the world's second largest
oil reserves and to destabilize the lock the arab world has upon the price
of oil. But whatever, my point today is distinguish between a stated claim
and the unstated true reasons for this war.
The world is so closely scrutinizing the activies of the Bush administration
that it may yet prove impossible to achieve the unstated true reasons for
this war. Dissent triumphant!
Given that our supposedly best intelligence on Iraqi WMD is proving itself
false as the days pass (although I still think it's possible to plant the
necessary evidence AND I think it would be a wise thing to do on the part of
the current administration), we have to start wondering about veracity
abouty the stated claims for this war. If the premise for the war is false,
then what are we doing there? Okay, we are there to free the Iraqi people
-- whether we like it or not, we are now expected to do it or face the wrath
of the rest of the world including England. Our true reasons for being there
may have to be cast aside in favor of satisfying the claimed reasons. We
cannot sell the lie, and then expect people to buy the truth instead. I had
a brief discussion with someone today about whether the world would now
accept an imperialist U.S. control of Iraq. Blair answered that question in
the negative -- repeatedly.
I still have my eye on which fat cats are going to get the contracts for
rebuilding and divvying up the oil fields. Not a small thing. It's not as
if Bush hasn't been trying to claim the prize for his buddies and himself --
he has! Go read about it elsewhere and find out, it's all over the place.
I am just acknowledging the unhappiness american greed is generating across
the pond and probably throughout the world. I think I am seeing Blair draw
his line in the sands of Iraq.
Thank the gods!
-- Hop-Frog
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| (...) Britain! (...) British! (...) Britain also expects progress in Israel / Palestine - the so-called "road map". (...) I'm having a "war movie week". I watched Full Metal Jacket last night, and I came to the same conclusion; just replace "gook" & (...) (21 years ago, 3-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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