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  Some amusement, while we're on the brink of a stupid war
 
(URL) of you may already have seen these... (22 years ago, 17-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Why us? and if us, why this way?
 
(...) As I've mentioned, I deplore this stupid, unjustified, pre-emptive, and distracting war. Having said that, my impression has been that France, China, and Russia are particularly demonized at least in part because they have presented themselves (...) (22 years ago, 17-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Why us? and if us, why this way?
 
(...) Nor do I. Canada has been a staunch friend of the US far more often than not. (...) Here I think you may want to check your recollection better. Who mans the DEW? (...) I'd not be so dismissive so quickly. His arguments are sound, they're just (...) (22 years ago, 17-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Why us? and if us, why this way?
 
(...) <snip> (...) Canada is in this list? This is why I disdain American political hacks (of course I distain Canadian political hacks as well... ;) ). I don't recall Canada ever 'begging' protection from the US. I don't recall Canada ever (...) (22 years ago, 17-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Why us? and if us, why this way?
 
(...) It is all too easy to demonise France, China and Russia; but the reality is that most nations are against this folly. As far as I know, there are only two nations where the majority of the population support the looming war: the USA and (...) (22 years ago, 17-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: I'm just going to take a back seat.... Re: You Can Lead A Horse To Water....
 
(...) It is not, and since 12.09.02[1] there has been even less of a stomach for it. It is everyone’s "job" to bring justice to the world... at the micro and macro level. Invading Iraq is not "justice", nor is bribing other dictators in order to get (...) (22 years ago, 17-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Just Teasing, I Have No Intention of Debating Any of This...
 
(...) Are not the consequences of doing what you're told also severe? Obviously, I don't know anything about what you do for the services, so this is hypothetical. But after enacting butchery on countless innocents, you will have a lifetime to (...) (22 years ago, 17-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The future of child care
 
"Larry Pieniazek" <lpieniazek@mercator.com> wrote in message news:HBr3GH.189p@lugnet.com... (...) There was a fascinating programme on the telly recently with various ex stewards and stewardesses telling stories of their days in the air, and it was (...) (22 years ago, 17-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Just Teasing, I Have No Intention of Debating Any of This...
 
Orion: It's a vexed issue. If you read some of the other articles you know that the legality of this possible war with Iraq is very much in question. If you are a catholic I think the Pope just gave you the basis for objecting to war on religious (...) (22 years ago, 17-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Just Teasing, I Have No Intention of Debating Any of This...
 
(...) I thought "I was only following orders" was no excuse? Scott A (22 years ago, 17-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Why us? and if us, why this way?
 
(...) (URL) always agree with Hanson but he's right this time. Even if you think there's a moral obligation (that the US somehow has gotten stuck with ) to right every wrong (which I do not! I go ONLY as far as saying we ought to clean up the messes (...) (22 years ago, 17-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Just Teasing, I Have No Intention of Debating Any of This...
 
(...) For my part, I can think of no better way to support our troops than to demand that they not be placed in harm's way for an arbitrary, unjustified war. Dave! (22 years ago, 17-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Just Teasing, I Have No Intention of Debating Any of This...
 
(...) This guy really touched a nerve with me. As a military member I know that we do what we're told and the consequences of not doing that is severe punishment including possible jail time. The writer of the article above essentially states that (...) (22 years ago, 16-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Just Teasing, I Have No Intention of Debating Any of This...
 
Recent articles that intrigued me: ---...--- BBC brings the heat: "War with Iraq 'could be illegal'" (URL) Flatly Declares No Connection Between Saddam and al Qaeda: (URL) a joke) Associated Press reports "thousands", while BBC reports "millions" of (...) (22 years ago, 16-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: A few things...
 
"Bruce Schlickbernd" <corsair@schlickbernd.org> wrote in message news:HBp9n1.1x1y@lugnet.com... (...) snipped A cool Budweiser is my first choice a really hot summer day. I wouldn´t call it "beer" though, it is more like "water-with-beerish-taste". (...) (22 years ago, 15-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: I'm just going to take a back seat.... Re: You Can Lead A Horse To Water....
 
(...) I have seen too many stupidly drunk people (mostly relatives) to even want to bother with alcohol. That and the smell of beer make me nauseous. (...) You know I think 99.9 percent of the time we all agree on the desired result, the (...) (22 years ago, 15-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  This is outrageous (not what you think) was Re: I'm just going to take a back seat..
 
(...) You know I have been thinking about this since I posted my original messages. What do we do about it? I mean Afganistan is a poor example of how to "help." At the same time one must recognize that while Afgans are still living in sub-standard (...) (22 years ago, 15-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: I'm just going to take a back seat.... Re: You Can Lead A Horse To Water....
 
(...) Fight this war now before our ill-equiped childeren have to do so. While we're sending our kids to dance lessons and soccer practice, they're having their kids bow down to hate americans and teaching pre-teens to fire automatic weapons. I'm (...) (22 years ago, 15-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: I'm just going to take a back seat.... Re: You Can Lead A Horse To Water....
 
(...) Of course it is. The implied threat of force in disputes of this nature is part of the diplomacy. It is not a simplistic, "Do as ah sez or I'll hurt youz real bad," - unless you are incompetent, that is, or simply bent on war ("Violence is the (...) (22 years ago, 14-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The future of child care
 
(...) My understanding, though correct me if I'm wrong, is that resistant strains are happening because people stop taking the drug as soon as they start feeling better rather than completing their course of treatment. Chris (22 years ago, 14-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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