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(...) I'm not sure I care who started it (1). What I do care about are the following points: - That we acknowledge that the Jewish people had cause to trust that no existing government would protect their rights. - That we acknowledge that the (...) (22 years ago, 6-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'd have to disagree with this. At least in the US, my perception is that HMO's and PPO's and C3P0's are more concerned with making a profit than practicing good medicine. Greedy corporations are driving up the cost of medicine. Steve (22 years ago, 6-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Representative? Dunno. I doubt it. I sure hope not! Dominant? They seem to be. The Tennessee constitution, for example, purportedly bars atheists from holding public office. (URL) have not validated that source. (22 years ago, 6-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) This is not a snipe(?). Am I not supporting his argument? I can't ever remember agreeing not to "participate in the same threads" as Larry. Further, I am pretty sure he has posted in the same threads as me – he is welcome to. (...) Are John's (...) (22 years ago, 6-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) ::sigh:: Okay, I'll take the bait -- although I am almost sure to regret it somehow... Yes, I think Dawkins has it right. But I would make the only slightly more subtle point that true religious freedom also includes the right to believe in (...) (22 years ago, 6-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Everything I have read suggests that those in the area had no idea this guy was there. (...) Dropping bombs on residential areas is like pouring petrol on to flames. It will not reduce the level of conflict in the longer-term. How many people (...) (22 years ago, 6-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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It seems that there is an agreement between Larry and Scott to not participate in the same threads. Whether this is totally informal, or even fictional, is irrelevent. It's been nice having no sniping between Scott and Larry. Thanks to both of you (...) (22 years ago, 6-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) because (...) I think it amounts to the same thing. I guess I'd prefer clinical detachment when discussing these issues. (...) Well, I don't think there's anything exactly wrong with that, as is. If the commoners are going to shield the (...) (22 years ago, 6-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I admit it, I was not impressed with the implied link between rationality, "success", religion and creationism. However, over the weekend I read an item by Richard Dawkins from "Free Inquiry" (see: www.secularhumanism.org). This is the part (...) (22 years ago, 6-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That sounds like quite a convincing case, perhaps they should have arrested him and put him on trial rather than murder women kids to get him? (...) What "risks" do Israeli F16 pilots face as they drop bombs on residential areas? Equipment (...) (22 years ago, 6-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) A good starting point would be to review the accounts of Israeli armed forces personal and government reports which come to light as the Israeli 30-year discloser law brings reveals them. Analysis of these is very slowly revealing the truth. (...) (22 years ago, 6-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I would have said "experience" rather than "bias"... After they dropped a bomb on a residential area on the last month, Ariel Sharon congratulated his forces on the strike and he described it as "a great success". That says it all. Scott A (22 years ago, 5-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Oh, come come now. If we're going to go with sound bites, let's at least use an accurate one, eh?... here's one miles and miles closer to the truth: "basically, the government of California tried to repeal the law of supply and demand, with (...) (22 years ago, 6-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I would agree that there probably was "nautiness" on the part of the (some) Israelis. I have no doubt that there was "nautiness" on the part of the (some) Palestinians. I certainly agree that the (many) Palestinians are inclined to believe (...) (22 years ago, 6-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) they want & sues for $xxxM to drive Dr Grigg out of business. The problem is not (necessarily) with the doctors! And trying to get insurance against this is what is driving medical costs up. ROSCO (22 years ago, 5-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Maybe because the international court is something no sane nation should support "as is." The lack of rights to a fair jury trial, language translator, and legal counsel are the 3 biggest reasons to NOT support the international court. It (...) (22 years ago, 5-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) anything (...) (the (...) with (...) wrong. (...) Enron did that after the government imposed price caps. When demand exceeds supply and the price is fixed eliminating the ability to reduce demand by raising prices, guess what happens. That (...) (22 years ago, 5-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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The real worry at the moment is that no-brain greedy Texan clown that happens to run the show in Washington. For some strange reason american presidents feel they're president of the world. If George Dubya decides Ariel Sharon is the goody and (...) (22 years ago, 5-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) There were a variety of contributing factors, but basically Enron engaged in good-old-fashioned price manipulation. Bruce (22 years ago, 5-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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[snip] (...) it, (...) The reason no one (i.e. current political leaders everywhere) is doing anything is really quite simple. To do so would require them to admit that what they have been doing (or not doing) up till now was wrong. I do not know (...) (22 years ago, 5-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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