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  Re: Shiri - A one time thing?
 
(...) Well...I find the whole topic offensive. Same for defense of it on all sides, including my own. What I did wrong was to discuss it in the wrong newsgroup. But I've said my piece. Cheers, - jsproat (23 years ago, 26-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Go ahead, make my day!
 
(...) Texas IS the only soverign nation that petitioned to join (and there are those that claim that it therefore has the right to secede again :-) ) ++Lar (23 years ago, 26-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Go ahead, make my day!
 
(...) It's interesting reading. The defense of property part is what I suspected it might be - even though that is couched in "reasonable belief" terms and "can't get the property back" terms, tackling a guy running off with your stereo is fraught (...) (23 years ago, 26-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Gun Control, Unnessesary Evil
 
(...) So it is not "wrong" then? Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 26-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Go ahead, make my day!
 
(...) Well, since you keep bringing Texas up, I thought I would give you a little reading material.... SUBCHAPTER C. PROTECTION OF PERSONS § 9.31. Self-Defense (a) Except as provided in Subsection (b), a person is justified in using force against (...) (23 years ago, 26-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Go ahead, make my day!
 
(...) And very nicely done. It's always nice to find the proper spot for Dave! (1) 2 - other people's footnotes ++Lar (reduce, reuse (2), recycle.. but do NOT "redirect" to local.portugal please) (23 years ago, 26-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Gun Control, Unnessesary Evil
 
(...) It's wrong for the context of the United States. Small-arms control may be just dandy for other countries, but the US isn't another country. The Constitution is part of the reason, but it is in itself not enough justification--the Constitution (...) (23 years ago, 26-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Go ahead, make my day!
 
(...) I think you have WAY too narrow a view of what "reasonable belief" is. Maybe that's where you may think I'm foolish, but I think you're beyond foolish in what you think it will/will not cover (in states outside of your precious California, (...) (23 years ago, 26-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Go ahead, make my day!
 
(...) <awkward snip: the following is attributed to Bruce S. by Dave! [1]> (...) I'll say! I mean, think of John Wayne Gacy, and that clown from Stephen King's novel "It". Thank goodness the last Bozo (Chicago area) is finally going to clown (...) (23 years ago, 26-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
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  Re: National vote on handguns?
 
(...) No, I'm afraid I do not have any cites. But I have never heard of any place where crime rate was low *and kept descending* in a constant way. The contrary seems however verifiable in most places of Earth where human presence is felt (...) (23 years ago, 25-Jul-01, to lugnet.loc.pt, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: National vote on handguns?
 
(...) I mentioned Texas - high handgun density, death penalty, high murder rate. But I bet I could find another state that had high handgun density, the death penalty, and a low murder rate. I rather expect it has a lot to do with the local (...) (23 years ago, 25-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: National vote on handguns?
 
(...) Disagree. Do you have any cites on that? This is such a multivariable problem I'd be surprised if anyone can produce cites that demonstrate anything, although I'm certainly fond of the ones that seem to indicate that right to carry states tend (...) (23 years ago, 25-Jul-01, to lugnet.loc.pt, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Go ahead, make my day!
 
(...) Actually, the only law that was quoted here on the board was from Colorado. I've heard similiar claims from people in other states - I can't think of one that didn't mention the stuff about reasonable belief that you were in some sort of (...) (23 years ago, 25-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: National vote on handguns?
 
(...) Yes, more *than previously*, not *than expected*. Is it possible that it would have been a 80% (or anything over 40%) increase in case there were NO restrictions on weaponry? Crime has a natural tendency to rise, in any situation - maybe (...) (23 years ago, 25-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Go ahead, make my day!
 
(...) You are the showing yourself to be the King Fool then. You try to tell everyone else that DOESN'T live in California how much trouble they'll get into, forgetting that the World Does Not Revolve Around California, and laws in other states (...) (23 years ago, 25-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Go ahead, make my day!
 
"Dave Schuler" <orrex@excite.com> wrote in message news:GH1MnF.2nz@lugnet.com... (...) that, or (...) confusion,I've (...) <snip> (...) I have to agree with him on that one. Clowns and mimes are the lowest form of life and deserve closer scrutiny. (...) (23 years ago, 25-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Go ahead, make my day!
 
(...) But not above 6000 feet! (...) You poke your pinky into the hole - don't try and actually grab it. (...) They are both fruits - now, apples and coproliths... (...) Just spinning my Miata in tight circles, honest officer! (...) I was (...) (23 years ago, 25-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Go ahead, make my day!
 
(...) Oops, could well be the case...! And once we get to the "Dots" phase these discussions get a lot ickier! (...) This sounds a lot like you would have nothing substantive to state...but sure, whatever you can dish out I can take. Can you handle (...) (23 years ago, 25-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Go ahead, make my day!
 
(...) With this in mind, and in order to eliminate further confusion,I've compiled the following small (and by no means complete) list. On one or more occasions Bruce has claimed: 1) that he can freeze or boil water in his bare hands 2) that he can (...) (23 years ago, 25-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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