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Re: Go ahead, make my day!
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Wed, 25 Jul 2001 22:45:59 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Tom Stangl writes:
> Bruce Schlickbernd wrote:
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> > For that matter, I see little point in responding to Tom, who comes up with
> > the Klassic Klueless Suicide Logic Bomb of dismissing everything I have to
> > say because I am from K(C)alifornia - which is pretty clueless in and of
> > itself, but with the added note that *he* is from California. All I can do
> > is stand back and marvel that someone is that determined to make a fool of
> > himself.
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> You are the showing yourself to be the King Fool then. You try to tell everyone else
> that DOESN'T live in California how much trouble they'll get into, forgetting that the
> World Does Not Revolve Around California, and laws in other states aren't necessarily
> going to be the same as ours. Fool you are, indeed. Quote all the "experts" you want,
> if they're basing their "facts" on California law, you are making a total fool of
> yourself.
Actually, the only law that was quoted here on the board was from Colorado.
I've heard similiar claims from people in other states - I can't think of
one that didn't mention the stuff about reasonable belief that you were in
some sort of physical danger to justify deadly force. I mentioned
California because that is the one I am most familiar with, but that doesn't
mean that I based what I said solely on that experience. (and yes, I
understand that "reasonable belief" offers a wide lattitude of protection to
the homeowner and am not arguing against it).
I don't know why you enjoy hanging yourself publically, but here's some more
rope.
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> > My favorite was the
> > law quote that actually backed me up almost word for word.
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> You can't read very well, can you? I think you need to read that CO law again.
Tell me where I was wrong. I read it very thoroughly.
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> > All I said from the beginning is simply that you do not have carte blanche to shoot
> > intruders.
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> Bull. You then railed at people about all sorts of scenarios. Scenarios that the CO
> law would cover, regardless of your precious California law expert.
No, you guys railed at me over scenarios that you incorrectly presumed my
opinion on. Note above, for example, how you presumed the entirety of my
experience was with California alone.
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> > Think otherwise? Go check your state law.
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> Now THAT is what you should have said in the first place. And I suggest you check out
> all 50 state laws - some are even more lenient than the CO law.
Then quote me them instead of just shooting your mouth off. I'm sure some
are more lenient then others (I noted all bets were off on Texas, for
example - you are presuming my opinion again when I have already stated
otherwise).
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> > Shrug. People want their macho fantasies.
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> If that's your answer to people showing what a fool you are, fine, we're all macho.
> Whatever.
I'm not that concerned what you think, Tom. I really don't have any respect
for the way you state your opinions regardless of whether I agree with them
or not. Your Kalifornians are Klueless attack was your typical ad hominen
level of personal assault.
Bruce
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Message has 3 Replies:
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| (...) I think you have WAY too narrow a view of what "reasonable belief" is. Maybe that's where you may think I'm foolish, but I think you're beyond foolish in what you think it will/will not cover (in states outside of your precious California, (...) (23 years ago, 26-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Well, since you keep bringing Texas up, I thought I would give you a little reading material.... SUBCHAPTER C. PROTECTION OF PERSONS § 9.31. Self-Defense (a) Except as provided in Subsection (b), a person is justified in using force against (...) (23 years ago, 26-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) You are the showing yourself to be the King Fool then. You try to tell everyone else that DOESN'T live in California how much trouble they'll get into, forgetting that the World Does Not Revolve Around California, and laws in other states (...) (23 years ago, 25-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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