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Eugwe Coral <eugwecoral37@cs.com> schrieb: FyyoI7.MJ1@lugnet.com... (...) What you wrote makes a lot of sence for me, but if this was the case, why did TLC ask Todd to cancel the message and not Target. Note that only Target would be affected if (...) (24 years ago, 8-Aug-00, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.general)
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Todd, Is this section for debate about how Lego and LD are working with the consumer? Or should all that be moved to .debate? I was wondering because I posted a large opinion piece about LD and "recent events" into .debate. Bryan (24 years ago, 8-Aug-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) reading (...) Ooh, mabey they'll cancel the M****** T* M*** like sets and make pirats!!! NICK #:^A (24 years ago, 8-Aug-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Not to put you on the spot, but how long do you envision waiting for Brad J. (or somone at Lego) to post explaining their position before you post his email? I'm very interested in insight into (wow, three "in" words in a row) TLC's reasoning (...) (24 years ago, 8-Aug-00, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Uh, kinda... NICK #:^< (24 years ago, 8-Aug-00, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Even worse, they didn't even ask us. They asked the admin of the site to remove the posts. (24 years ago, 8-Aug-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Exactly. What, precisely, is the point of telling us not to talk about it? The sets might get cancelled? The prices might change? I think anyone reading this information knows that might happen. Competitors might get the info? Uh, so? I'm sure (...) (24 years ago, 8-Aug-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Either way, the problem is at Target. Once it's out, it's news. Frankly, I find it silly when companies "crack down" on things like this. It's their own fans they're hurting -- and it's the most rabid fanatical ones who *care* about stuff like (...) (24 years ago, 8-Aug-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) No, Lego asked Todd not to publish information they consider "confidential", and he agreed to not do that. You're still free to discuss it. But, if you want to *publish* it somewhere, you'll have to find a publisher that won't honor Lego's (...) (24 years ago, 8-Aug-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Not if they can then push Mega Bloks more and make up for it.... (24 years ago, 8-Aug-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Which again would cause them to loose sales/profit? In the UK there is a phrase "cut your nose off to spite your face" - that is what target would be doing if they even deliberatelly reduced lego sales by 1%. Scott A (...) (24 years ago, 8-Aug-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) This cuts both ways, Target can't NOT sell Lego at all or they will lose sales too. However they can deemphasize it or cut shelf space for it (which seems to be happening at Target and Kmart at least) ++Lar (24 years ago, 8-Aug-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) The problem here is that target is so big that they could take action against efforts by TLG to tell them how to run their stock systems or whatever (e.g. discontinuing the sale of lego) and that would loose sales for TLG. (24 years ago, 8-Aug-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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However, In reality LEGO was only doing their usual pre-sale marketing prep... ie: updating retail store databases in preparation for the upcoming December release... This however should be a problem directed at Target abd its handling of said (...) (24 years ago, 8-Aug-00, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Apple's quiet crackdown began more than two years ago. Heads rolled, because they leaked bogus information that was planted to detect the leak. Apple may have gotten "better publicity" for last month's crackdown on photos of "the cube", but it (...) (24 years ago, 8-Aug-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Me too. But in this case, *Target* is the source of the leak. At this point, it's fair game. The only issue that comes into it for me is the one of respect for Lego. Out of respect for them, I personally will avoid posting data that I might (...) (24 years ago, 8-Aug-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Interesting question. The info is out there. It WILL be discussed. I've received numerous copies of it already. I could simply post it on my website or to RTL or any number of places (either taking credit for it or as anonymously as possible) (...) (24 years ago, 8-Aug-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) I don't really have a problem with your reasons for canceling the various posts that began this thread. My problem is that TLC seems to be asking you to replace their clothing when *they* are the ones walking about nude! If they have a problem (...) (24 years ago, 8-Aug-00, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Well, you know, the same exact thing would have happened if LEGO had asked the same thing a year ago. The only difference now is that they're paying attention, so they notice things like this. And they use e-mail, which makes things go faster. (...) (24 years ago, 8-Aug-00, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) What if someone goes in to Target, asks an employee for that info, gets it, and then posts it here? (24 years ago, 8-Aug-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Yes, I deleted as few messages as possible -- only the ones which contained references to the materials which were asked to be deleted. --Todd (24 years ago, 8-Aug-00, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Oh, and P.S.: Todd only deleted a lot of the reply messages because the original message was in with the reply, which makes a lot of sense. Most of the replies were mostly "Wow, that's cool" so, personally, I feel Todd did exercise good (...) (24 years ago, 7-Aug-00, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Well said. ~Nick (URL) (24 years ago, 7-Aug-00, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Gotta agree with Eric here. And wow, I guess I either need to spend more time reading various groups again or give up entirely. In fact, I'm a little scared after looking at the little dots view of this thread. Most of what I'm seeing are (...) (24 years ago, 7-Aug-00, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Ahh, hmm. So, the information has been released to Target Stores, and Target has placed it in their computer. An employee of Target who has access to that information legally (ie, he was not sneaking into his bosses' offices) shared it with (...) (24 years ago, 7-Aug-00, to lugnet.lego.direct) !
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Well, at least that proves it wasn't a hoax... (...) -- | Tom Stangl, Technical Support Netscape Communications Corp | Please do not associate my personal views with my employer (24 years ago, 7-Aug-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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Oh OK. Sorry LEGO (...) Jorge Rodríguez rodriguez.136@osu.edu (24 years ago, 7-Aug-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) LEGO has respectfully requested that the leaked information on this thread be deleted or otherwise removed from view. Since this was a formal request and TLC's privacy rights are in question here, this is a legal issue and I will be deleting (...) (24 years ago, 7-Aug-00, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.announce)
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I just wanted to point out that the Builder's Gallery at lego.com is down. When you click the "vote for model" button, none of the pictures on the new page load. Also, if anyone from TLC is reading this, I think you should check out this line of (...) (24 years ago, 5-Aug-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Amen to that. After all, we are talking about a child's toy. TLC *should* stick to marketing to the youth of the world (God knows we need kids playing with LEGO a lot more than Ninetendo, watching MTV, etc) while providing bulk services for (...) (24 years ago, 4-Aug-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) That's good to hear Todd. I think it's wise for TLC to leave LUGNET's market alone. LUGNET continues to improve at a pace that suits most users needs, or so I would hope. It meets mine. Really is time I sent you my membership fees too. :-) I (...) (24 years ago, 4-Aug-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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I would say that until bulk ordering is up and going full speed we need the parts packs. At the moment the parts packs are offering pieces (doors, windows, minifig accessories, corner roof pieces, a larger selection of plates) that are not available (...) (24 years ago, 4-Aug-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Thanks James, I hadn't been there before. <ICS> (24 years ago, 4-Aug-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) A fair number of *AFOLs* liked them, at a *huge* discount. That's bad for TLC one of two ways: If we're a significant part of the market, make us sets we want to buy at full price and don't take the hit on margins, because we're big enough to (...) (24 years ago, 4-Aug-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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Of course, flops can even depend to some extent on whether the set will make it as a parts pack, after people have said they don't want to buy it! ;-) For those in the USA and other high-usage LEGO areas, there are also the sets that are not very (...) (24 years ago, 4-Aug-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) For the record, I dispute that TLC is "great at designing sets which appeal to kids or JFOLs". I think we all can recite a significant list of recent designs that, based on shelf dwell time, appear to be flops. If we wanted to, but I don't (...) (24 years ago, 4-Aug-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Right. And this is because everyone loves Rock Raiders, the new and vastly overpriced AND vastly juniorized town sets, arctic, castle, etc? Guess again. I am not touching that large castle set except at deep discount. In fact, I won't touch (...) (24 years ago, 4-Aug-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) I don't really consider discounted sets as any sort of competition for bulk. In part, I think that what we are seeing is a bubble which is going to burst. To some extent, right now we are flushing out a bunch of excess, poorly distributed (...) (24 years ago, 4-Aug-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Phone conversation -- January, I believe. No request, explicit or implicit, to keep the information private. I just remembered it yesterday. It's not a new or novel idea, so it didn't stand out at the time. (...) I just found a sheet of paper (...) (24 years ago, 3-Aug-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) I hesitate to agree with your opinion on the matter, John. I'd be more impressed if the current bulk orders were more compelling in terms of items offered, quantities available, and price. I liked the tiles, the small window, and the small (...) (24 years ago, 3-Aug-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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