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| | | 2002 catalogue. Oh dear, dear, dear. Where did it all go so wrong? Sorry, I am disappointed so much I cant even be bothered to tell you why. lawrence (23 years ago, 11-Nov-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | Re: Goodbye Lego and thanks for all the bricks —Mark de Kock
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| | | | | (...) Why? (23 years ago, 11-Nov-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | Re: Goodbye Lego and thanks for all the bricks —Kevin Johnston
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| | | | | | (...) Not answering for Lawrence; these are my opinions. After I read the catalog, I was struck (and dismayed) by one thing above all: No new major System theme entries for 2002, except Harry Potter (which debuted early for film schedule reasons). (...) (23 years ago, 11-Nov-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Goodbye Lego and thanks for all the bricks —Erik Olson
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| | | | | | | I saw an Adidas brick (white soccer barrier) in the K8 pile at Brickfest last July. I'm not a Soccer collector so I assumed it was nothing new. The other two soccer barriers I found were advertising Lego themes (Arctic for one.) Personally, I can (...) (23 years ago, 11-Nov-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Goodbye Lego and thanks for all the bricks —Derek Raycraft
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| | | | | | | | (...) Yes Adidas has been part of the soccer sets from the begining. Derek (23 years ago, 12-Nov-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Goodbye Lego and thanks for all the bricks —Richard Marchetti
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| | | | | | (...) They do show some spark, but not quite enough. I have some interest in the squid vehicle, which uses some very un-lego-like elements, but I still like it because it has style up the wazoo. But after the whole Ogel's Control Center (...) (23 years ago, 11-Nov-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | Bulk vs. BrickBay (was: Goodbye Lego and thanks for all the bricks) —Tony Hafner
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| | | | | | | (...) Exactly- Lego sells sets to the mass market (where "mass" is a lot bigger than us). For some things that you can't get very well from parting out sets, Lego has put a high premium on them... and they sell. If you want a specific part that (...) (23 years ago, 12-Nov-01, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Bulk vs. BrickBay (was: Goodbye Lego and thanks for all the bricks) —Allan Bedford
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| | | | | | | | (...) Hello Tony, I explored the math behind this particular argument in a post to LUGNET about a month ago: (URL) think there is a strong case for the theory that they could actually be making even more money than they are now. Any time people are (...) (23 years ago, 12-Nov-01, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Bulk vs. BrickBay (was: Goodbye Lego and thanks for all the bricks) —Frank Filz
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| | | | | | | | (...) This logic doesn't necessarily hold true. How many products are sold by company owned stores? Resellers abound in many markets, for a variety of reasons. One of the biggest reasons is that they serve a niche part of some larger market. I (...) (23 years ago, 12-Nov-01, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Bulk vs. BrickBay (was: Goodbye Lego and thanks for all the bricks) —Steve Bliss
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| | | | | | | | (...) Hmmmmm, now *there's* an interesting idea. I'm going to keep my eyes open for a BrickBay seller who lists their quantities as "How many do you want?" Steve (23 years ago, 13-Nov-01, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Bulk vs. BrickBay (was: Goodbye Lego and thanks for all the bricks) —John Neal
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| | | | | | | | (...) Or has a *really* decent selection... -John (23 years ago, 13-Nov-01, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Goodbye Lego and thanks for all the bricks —Kevin Johnston
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| | | | | | (...) "System" to me is more about an interconnected play world, with original, open themes, than it is about the particular form of the figures. Playmobil has its own "system," for example. Lego could conceivably develop a new one based on a (...) (23 years ago, 12-Nov-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Goodbye Lego and thanks for all the bricks —John P. Henderson
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| | | | | | (...) Indeed. They did it before. Ever see the figures available during the mid 1970's? They had Town sets, but no mini-fig as we think of it. And during the 80's, it wasn't called System with a logo. The boxes just had the word LEGOLAND stamped on (...) (23 years ago, 13-Nov-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | RE: Goodbye Lego and thanks for all the bricks —Bram Lambrecht
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| | | | | | (...) IIRC, some Playmobile figs have moveable wrists, others do not. There are certainly different body styles representing different types of clothes. ...Anyway, LEGO has introduced different sized figs over the years, including Fabuland, Jack (...) (23 years ago, 14-Nov-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | Re: Goodbye Lego and thanks for all the bricks —Allan Bedford
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| | | | | (...) Lawrence... if I may make a suggestion.... Take a moment (or two) to tell the company exactly what it is that's bothering you about the catalog. Make it positive, but don't be afraid to be stern. Simply telling them that you're unhappy does (...) (23 years ago, 11-Nov-01, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | Re: Goodbye Lego and thanks for all the bricks —Lawrence Wilkes
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| | | | | | "Allan Bedford" <apotomeREMOVE-THIS@...vista.net> wrote in message news:GMn6Cr.5y0@lugnet.com... (...) They have had all the input and direction they need via Lugnet. My thoughts aren't too dissimilar to many others here. I can't see Lego having (...) (23 years ago, 11-Nov-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.dear-lego)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Goodbye Lego and thanks for all the bricks —Allan Bedford
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| | | | | | | (...) My turn to disagree. :) I think they haven't had nearly enough constructive criticism here on LUGNET. Sure they've had some. Just do a search on my name and you'll find 20 or 30 posts in the last few months on this exact topic. But I wonder (...) (23 years ago, 11-Nov-01, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Goodbye Lego and thanks for all the bricks —John P. Henderson
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| | | | | | | | (...) Mmm. Well. At least it is only the set design, and not the product itself that has our opinions on the downslope. ...Whoa! Now you hold on there TLC! Don't you dare think about changing your recipe for high precision molded ABS!! <smirk & (...) (23 years ago, 13-Nov-01, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Goodbye Lego and thanks for all the bricks —Allan Bedford
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| | | | | | | | | (...) Agreed. You might go so far as to say one of the only things holding sales up is that some of the sets being sold contain some original style bricks which are still made of the original recipe. But of course my argument is that if the sets (...) (23 years ago, 14-Nov-01, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Goodbye Lego and thanks for all the bricks —John P. Henderson
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) "Ultimately future adult fans" ...That is what I've been thinking. If indeed the quality (whether of set design, themes offeres, over-licensing, juniorization, etc., or of element quality) should slip too much, then the young generation will (...) (23 years ago, 14-Nov-01, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Goodbye Lego and thanks for all the bricks —Steve Bliss
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| | | | | | | | (...) Disagree. Seems like in the last year or two, I've experienced (and heard about) many more problems with the bricks - warped pieces, mismolded parts, parts without 'clutch power' - than in previous years. I think LEGO has definitely cut (...) (23 years ago, 14-Nov-01, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Goodbye Lego and thanks for all the bricks —John P. Henderson
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| | | | | | | | | (...) My own experience does not reflect this. The last time I found a QA problem was with a few long 2X plates that were warped slightly and thus connected poorly -oddly enough this was in what now is considered one of the all time best sets -the (...) (23 years ago, 14-Nov-01, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Goodbye Lego and thanks for all the bricks —Ross Crawford
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| | | | | | | | (...) ABS!! (...) It's interesting, I've heard that a lot, but though the vast majority of the brick I now own have been purchased in the last two years (probably more new than S/H, but I haven't counted), I've yet to come across any "bad bricks". (...) (23 years ago, 14-Nov-01, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Goodbye Lego and thanks for all the bricks —Gary E. Blessing
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| | | | | | I'm gonna stick my nose in here, and say I agree whole hartedly. besides that you can now save money :-) I haven't bought anything from lego in aprox 9 monthes. of coarse I'm going into my dark ages, so you might have different results with not (...) (23 years ago, 12-Nov-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.dear-lego)
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| | | | | Re: Goodbye Lego and thanks for all the bricks —Santosh Bhat
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| | | | | (...) I heard Lego are developing a new operating system for their new line of Lego Notebook computers. I think their called Brickpads or something.. I'm Kidding. Microsoft doesnt make plastic construction bricks, Lego doesnt need to get involved in (...) (23 years ago, 11-Nov-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | Re: Goodbye Lego and thanks for all the bricks —Tom Inosanto
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| | | | | | (...) Darn! lol :) <snip> (...) Profits? They are trying to charge MORE for LESS take for example the blue tub, $20 for 1200 bricks (the 3033) well, its gone - what replaced it? Another blue tub with just over 600 parts (parts, not bricks) for the (...) (23 years ago, 12-Nov-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Goodbye Lego and thanks for all the bricks —Maggie Cambron
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| | | | | | (...) Relax... they'll come up with a replacement for the 3033 blue tub. Offering sets consisting of only bricks is not a one-time thing, you know. Recall 950 piece buckets 1819 and 1776. Granted, the list price was $20 and a tub beats the heck out (...) (23 years ago, 13-Nov-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | Re: Goodbye Lego and thanks for all the bricks —Ludo Soete
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| | | | | (...) Hi, I was at the Lego Event 2001 in Holland, and some people where complaining (as i do too) abouth the sets. Too many large bricks (juniorisation), no houses as in the 80-ties, and getting too expensive for what you get. Santa Claus is (...) (23 years ago, 12-Nov-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | Re: Goodbye Lego and thanks for all the bricks —Jack Gregory
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| | | | Can't you move this to "dear-lego"? This tirade really has little to do with lego direct, and if I wanted to read all the whining about lego not making toys you like anymore, I would read dear-lego. Frankly, LEGO Direct is doing a lot of things (...) (23 years ago, 13-Nov-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | Re: Goodbye Lego and thanks for all the bricks —Richard Marchetti
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| | | | (...) I can't see why this is the wrong place for Wilkes' comments. Dear Lego is an almost pointless place to put voice to these sentiments [lugnet.dear-lego– Open letters to the LEGO Group (not necessarily to be read by anyone at LEGO)]. By (...) (23 years ago, 13-Nov-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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