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Re: !!!IMPORTANT!!!-SPUDS No fault of TLG-!!!IMPORTANT!!!
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lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego
Date: 
Mon, 26 Feb 2001 00:21:05 GMT
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"Paul Gyugyi" <paul@gyugyi.com> wrote in message news:G9C6Fu.3uB@lugnet.com...
> Hi Tim,
> I agree with you completely, but I must correct you on the use
> of a term:
> 
> SPUDs(*) are single-purpose-useless/unique-decorative pieces.
> Think "rowboat". The 3-high 2x4 brick is not a SPUD.

Ok, my bad.  The Single Purpose Useless...thing kinda did me in there :-)
Still, POOPs are evil, nasty and very bad things.

> POOPs are pieces-out-of-other-pieces. I used to call these SAs (**),
> or Structural Alternatives.  The best example is the new LoM
> connector piece that is a 2x4 plate, a 2x2 plate, and a 2x2 tile with
> technic peg sticking up.  It holds together much better in models,
> and is a good alternative to have in models. a 2x4x3 brick is
> not necessarily a bad thing(***), I can think of models where the added
> strength would help, but a set that pointlessly uses one where the
> design does not require it is reducing future play value of that set.

Ok.

> So, how much money was wasted on the fab line for those elevated
> road plates?

I don't know figures...but POOPs are really a waste of money, especially when
molds of their component parts already exist and have been in use for years.

> (**) yes, you could probably scramble the letters and fit the theme,
> although that wasn't my intent.

Tee hee :-)  I've always wanted an acronym for FART, to fit the theme myself.
Kyle Keppler has made a few attempts..but they remain lesser known ;-)

> (***) I've been told the bricks like the 3-high 2x4 were just the
> lego cad engineers getting their hands around the new modelling and
> molding process.  What better way to get your feet wet than by
> stretching and combining bricks?

You told me that last spring at your place.  Kinda sad, and I don't think that's
_all_ of it, but has to be part of the reason.  Every time I address the POOP
thing with a TLC employee...I get some 'studies have shown that kids...' excuse
of an answer.  When, I really think that kids are smart enough to use the
component parts.  Plus, a POOP ruins the play value of a set by packaging less
parts with it and allowing for less alternative possibilities.  If POOPs didn't
exist, AFOLs wouldn't have a ton to complain about, and LEGO could cater to
_both_ markets.

-Tim



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  Re: !!!IMPORTANT!!!-SPUDS No fault of TLG-!!!IMPORTANT!!!
 
(...) Tim, we came up with one... for all those blue castle toppers in the castle accessory pack... Freaking Annoying Roof Toppers Like anyone really needs anymore of those... I don't think we've gotten Shiri to add it yet though... Just figured I'd (...) (26 years ago, 26-Feb-01, to lugnet.general)
  Re: !!!IMPORTANT!!!-SPUDS No fault of TLG-!!!IMPORTANT!!!
 
(...) I'll continue to disagree, and I'll happily take those classic space printed 1x6x5 bricks off the hands of anyone who feels POOPs should never exist. I must say that I get tired listening to folks whining about POOPs when it is regularly (...) (26 years ago, 26-Feb-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)

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  Re: !!!IMPORTANT!!!-SPUDS No fault of TLG-!!!IMPORTANT!!!
 
Hi Tim, I agree with you completely, but I must correct you on the use of a term: SPUDs(*) are single-purpose-usele...decorative pieces. Think "rowboat". The 3-high 2x4 brick is not a SPUD. POOPs are pieces-out-of-other-pieces. I used to call these (...) (26 years ago, 25-Feb-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)

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