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(...) (URL) (24 years ago, 11-Jan-01, to lugnet.general)
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(...) - Current RCX switching on will become a boot procedure lasting at least 2 minutes. - Same for switching off. - Attaching sensors and motors will require at least one reboot. This until a new plug&play version will be out, able to properly (...) (24 years ago, 11-Jan-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.robotics)
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I'm glad I finally got my 1.5 version RIS this year. When the MS "enhanced" 2.0 kit arrives, my robots will act like brain-dead zombies, bashing into skirting boards and inexplicably locking up every five minutes. Now they'll have to invent a (...) (24 years ago, 11-Jan-01, to lugnet.robotics)
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(...) Don't worry too much about this. It seems like typical marketing blather and probably won't affect that actual bricks too much. It's probably going to affect games and software, as well as shared web content. Now, if I was Michael Lachmann, (...) (24 years ago, 11-Jan-01, to lugnet.robotics)
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Oh no! This is very very bad. Any good will one may direct toward Lego and its products certainly won't be redirected toward Microsoft, at least as far as I am concerned. If and when Lego becomes a small satellite of Microsoft's, it'll all be over (...) (24 years ago, 11-Jan-01, to lugnet.robotics)
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(...) This is a disaster... If M$ does with LEGO that they do to everyone else we can soon expect LEGO to try to pull the plug on all Free Thinking. Especially anything to do with Linux. V2 may not allow 3rd party programs to work with it now. You (...) (24 years ago, 11-Jan-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.robotics)
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(...) Whoah there Dean, calm down. What this press release boils down to is: 1) Microsoft powering the S@H stuff on the Web. * Hey, it can't get any worse than it is now - whenever I try to go there it's so slow as to be completely unusable. 2) LEGO (...) (24 years ago, 11-Jan-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.robotics)
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(...) Hey Dean, this is not necessarily going to be a disaster. As much as I dislike Microsoft as a company, I have to admit that during the past year or so they have made some impressive improvements to some Mac software. Some critics have gone so (...) (24 years ago, 11-Jan-01, to lugnet.robotics)
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(...) Um, and why is it so bad? I wonder if it has anything to do with using Microsoft software to begin with. I observe that the web site works a lot better with Internet Explorer than Netscape on my PC, and it doesn't work at all on my Unix (...) (24 years ago, 11-Jan-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.robotics)
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(...) Oh, just what I've always wanted! (...) So there's one redeeming aspect. (...) Feh. Windows Media is M$ bogo-format. We want real standards. (...) Xbox is M$. Ptui. (...) And MacOS and Linux? (...) Very few companies ruin their networks using (...) (24 years ago, 12-Jan-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.robotics)
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In trying to read substance from the press release on the Lego site, all I found was this: Microsoft will advertise and sell Legos. TLG will write software that is compliant with Microsoft protocols. Doesn't sound like a big deal, but then again, (...) (24 years ago, 12-Jan-01, to lugnet.robotics)
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(...) (URL) (24 years ago, 12-Jan-01, to lugnet.robotics, lugnet.general)
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(...) Well - we probably don't care too much about *that*. (...) *THAT* is the exact "Big Bad Thing" that I'm most worried about. M$ protocols are generally *closed* - and are generally undocumented (unless you are a licensed developer and sign (...) (24 years ago, 12-Jan-01, to lugnet.robotics)
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(...) Can't blame for that. Maybe it'll actually allow you to save in other than the small size for easier translation. (...) Didn't say it was a good thing, just translating 'press release speak'. (...) Well, it's not like they support them much (...) (24 years ago, 12-Jan-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.robotics)
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If we're going to have OS advocacy wars, perhaps we should just all go to slashdot and have them there, rather than cluttering up the list. (...) One word: Expedia. This is a microsoft site that kicks absolute ass. (...) I thought that's what mpeg (...) (24 years ago, 12-Jan-01, to lugnet.robotics)
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*lol* !!!!! laughed myself silly! great joke! (...) (24 years ago, 12-Jan-01, to lugnet.robotics)
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(...) I set Followup-To: lugnet.off-topic.geek on this post... (...) No matter how good M$S@H may turn out to be, it will still be powered by M$ and not by LEGO, if the press release is accurate. BTW: (URL) 2) LEGO licensed the ability to use (...) (24 years ago, 13-Jan-01, to lugnet.robotics, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) The difference is that now, Lego are reasonably open about letting people build their own tools like NQC that use the firmware inside the box. Most Linux enthusiasts would tell you that we don't especially need Lego to release all their (...) (24 years ago, 13-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.robotics)
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(...) Not to mention that IF someone DID do it (with all the M$ "Safeguards" in place) then the bottomless pit of money from the evil empire would quickly stamp some poor sod into the ground. NQC, LegOS and Legjos had better watch closely and double (...) (24 years ago, 13-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.robotics)
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I believe the main reason why TLC has joined with MS is that TLC has stopped growing for the first time in its history and is trying to find a way not to go bankrupt in a fair amount of time! The major cause of TLC to have losses is the ever more (...) (24 years ago, 13-Jan-01, to lugnet.robotics)
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(...) If they are seeking a partner to help them with LEGO Games then perhaps they SHOULD be seeing a company that has a proven GAME record. NOT a destroyer of the public good! (...) I would hope that M$ does not get involved at all. M$ is only (...) (24 years ago, 14-Jan-01, to lugnet.robotics)
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(...) Hmm, yes, I agree! BTW, did you know that there are 3 adult LEGO fans at Electronic Arts? Steve Jackson (yes, _the_ Steve Jackson) is also an adult fan of LEGO. :-) (...) This is mostly what has me worried. There's nothing wrong with wanting (...) (24 years ago, 14-Jan-01, to lugnet.robotics)
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(...) Ironic that Jacob wresting with the angel should appear like the devil (MSFT) dancing with the innocent (TLG). "Jacob" after all, means "back-biter". (24 years ago, 14-Jan-01, to lugnet.robotics)
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(...) I'm honestly a bit puzzled by this statement. Regarding the MS issue, it's not like LEGO has released lots of software for non-MS OS earlier on. And regarding the implied statement that LEGO used to be a moral company. I don't see that (...) (24 years ago, 14-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) Well again, it's only my opinion! It's the only conclusion I can reach. Not suddenly, but gradually over say a 20-year period. I'd been wondering, given all of the things you listed, and now I wonder no more. --Todd (24 years ago, 14-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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