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Re: Once again, a relativley major bug...
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lugnet.cad.mlcad
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Tue, 16 Sep 2003 18:28:39 GMT
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In lugnet.cad.mlcad, Jan-Albert van Ree wrote:
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Amaury Jacquot wrote:
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In my opinion, the whole rendering system should be made Direct3D
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No, this is a bad idea, in that it would lock up the software to MS and
make it much more difficult to use under other platforms (read linux+wine)
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Gotta agree, I’d HATE to see that happen. It’s already a pity the new track
designer program most likely won’t work under Wine (since it uses much of
.NET from what I read in the announcement) let’s not let this one go
please. We can’t expect many people actively developing Linux software, but
lets at least show appreciation for people that write Windows software that
runs cross-platform.
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I agree that cross-platform is good, and I also think that OpenGL is a more
appropriate API to use because of this. However, I think it’s only fair to
point out that after releasing a Linux native version of LDView, I got exactly
one piece of Linux-related feedback. (That particular thread then generated
various other responses by other users.) Now maybe my first Linux release was
just that good, but I highly doubt it.
In addition, my Linux release was for LDView version 1.9.7. Since then, I have
released 6 versions of LDView for Windows without updating the Linux version,
and I haven’t had a single person ask me when I’ll get around to updating the
Linux version.
To me, all this says that at the very least most of the people intersted in
using LDView aren’t running Linux. Perhaps this is because the people running
Linux don’t have good OpenGL performance on their machines. Or perhaps the
people running Linux aren’t intersted in a real-time viewer for their Lego
models. Or perhaps there aren’t many LDraw users in Linux due to a lack of
other tools. Or maybe there just aren’t that many people who use LDView at all,
and I’m deluding myself that it seems to be fairly popular in Windows.
On top of all this, even though I did all the hard work of getting a Linux
version up and running in the first place, I haven’t had anyone offer to update
my Linux release to bring it up-to-date with the latest Windows release. (Note
that a vast majority of the newer features would be trivial to integrate into
the Linux version, since it would simply require updating the preferences UI to
support them.) To me, this says that the other Linux developers are either busy
doing other things, or also don’t really care about having an up-to-date Linux
version of LDView. (While I have made promises to update the Linux version with
each Windows release, I haven’t exactly implied that it will happen soon, just
“eventually”.)
So what am I trying to say here? Basically, this: most developers will agree
that writing portable code is a good thing. However, the reality of the
situation is that this can often be limiting, and it definitely requires a great
deal of care. In addition, limiting yourself to tools that would be easy to
port can seriously cut down on your available programming options. And unless
LDView is completely atypical, then the users themselves don’t even care enough
to provide feedback.
--Travis Cobbs
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Message has 2 Replies:
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| (...) Don't forget that Mac OS uses OpenGL as well. The entire Mac OS X window manager is an OpenGL app, which means that the whole GUI can do transparencies, drop shadows, rotations, etc etc and all be video card accelerated. Apple calls it Quartz (...) (21 years ago, 17-Sep-03, to lugnet.cad.mlcad, FTX)
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| (...) I'll be the first to admit : never even looked at LDView. Up until now I have done everything in MLCAD, and if I needed a nice image I'd use L3P and do a POVRAY. I'll look into LDView, who knows what I've missed :D (...) I don't even mind if (...) (21 years ago, 17-Sep-03, to lugnet.cad.mlcad)
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| (...) Gotta agree, I'd HATE to see that happen. It's already a pity the new track designer program most likely won't work under Wine (since it uses much of .NET from what I read in the announcement) let's not let this one go please. We can't expect (...) (21 years ago, 16-Sep-03, to lugnet.cad.mlcad)
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