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Re: Once again, a relativley major bug...
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Tue, 16 Sep 2003 12:47:49 GMT
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replying to both here :
Kevin L. Clague wrote:
> In lugnet.cad.mlcad, Andrew Keyser wrote:
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> > In my opinion, the whole rendering system should be made Direct3D
No, this is a bad idea, in that it would lock up the software to MS and
make it much more difficult to use under other platforms (read linux+wine)
> > although that I know will create problems with culling. What really bugs
> > me though is the EXTREMLEY difficult-to-use 3D rotaton. What happened to
> > any kind of coordination at all? Not to be rude or insulting, because
> > the rest of the program is great...the 3D view messes it up. I'm used to
> > using programs like 3D Studio Max and ZModeler <http://www.zmodeler.com>
> > which all have correct view rotation.
Agreed, I like the way the 3d view controls from autocad works. however,
there's nothing I can do about it because... (see below)
> If you were so inspired, you could write a replacement.
true, but some other option would make much more sense... (see below)
> I think that non-programmers/engineers have no idea how much work goes into the
> development of a program like MLCad. The world would be a nicer place if users
> appreciated the developers of the free LDraw family software more, rather than
> just complain.
agreed, but there is one thing that prevents programmer types like
myself to do that, and that is ... (see below)
[snip]
> Undoubteldy it is just the way Michael designed it. Often users seem to think
> that because a program is not designed the way they expect it that the program
> is buggy (listening Ahui?). When the program does not work the Michael intended,
> it is a bug. When people want the program to work differently it is an
> enhancement request.
yeah, agreed (see below for more... the suspense goes on...)
> 3D graphics involves a lot of matrix algebra mathematics. There is more than
> one way to represent a 3D space given the same dimensioned matrix. The late
> James Jessiman, who created the LDraw file format, chose one form of
> representation. Since then the CAD industry has chosen a different form as
> standard. Tough to call it *wrong* when there were multiple viable choices.
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> There *are* things that I'd like to be different in MLCad, but that does not
> make them bugs.
you could change that if... (see below...)
> I'd like zoom mode to be accessible by pressing and holding a key, and when you
> let go, you go back to the normal edit mode. This is a feature enhancement
> request, not a bug.
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> For me both bugs and enhancement requests are appreciated, as long there is a
> tone of overall appreciation of the donation of my free time to the program
> development.
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> Kevin
see, the thing that prevents you to do all that is that Michael is the
only person able to do anything on the program, and this is a bottleneck.
The application would gain much more beef if it was truly free (in
either the GNU/GPL sense, or the wider "open source" sense), so that
anyone with skills could modify the program for anyone else's benefit.
As long as Michael jealously guards the source to the application like
he does
1) lots of features or enhancements will not be added to the application
mostly due to lack of time
2) we will have to resort to hacks (wine on linux, for instance) to get
the application to run on other platforms.
this message is a call to Michael to see the true benefits of open
source/free software and release the source code to MLCad to the
community, so we can help him
hope this message will be read by Michael
Sincerely
Amaury
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| (...) I agree in principle with everything Amaury says, but before everyone gets their knickers in a knot (or their shorts bunched up) the word jealous is probably a small error in translation. I'm going to assume Amaury is a native French speaker (...) (21 years ago, 16-Sep-03, to lugnet.cad.mlcad)
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| (...) Gotta agree, I'd HATE to see that happen. It's already a pity the new track designer program most likely won't work under Wine (since it uses much of .NET from what I read in the announcement) let's not let this one go please. We can't expect (...) (21 years ago, 16-Sep-03, to lugnet.cad.mlcad)
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| (...) First of all.... The LDraw family of CAD would not be where is is today without MLCad. It seems like you are biting the hand that feeds you. The CAD programs you are referring to are paid for, which probably means that one or more people work (...) (21 years ago, 13-Sep-03, to lugnet.cad.mlcad)
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