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Re: Stud logos in fan apps
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Thu, 7 Feb 2002 16:18:29 GMT
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In lugnet.cad.dev, Travis Cobbs writes:
> In lugnet.cad.dev, Terry Keller writes:
> > The unofficial clone parts that are compatible with the LDraw system of
> > tools would be a different matter. They are not representations of Lego and
> > should not say Lego on them. What logo (if present) that they should have
> > would be dependent on what brand they are, and on the wishes of their
> > respective trademark owners. Who knows, the clone brands officialdom may not
> > look to kindly on infringement of their property. You'd have to ask their
> > lawyers.
I have no real intent of including any logo on the clone.dat bricks for a
number of reasons; nearly every brand has a 2x4 brick, so I'd need to make a
different file for each brand's 2x4 brick I wanted to model! Better to
sidestep the whole issue, since a lot of clone brands don't even show a logo
on the bricks.
> Well, it should be noted that any programs that add a LEGO logo to the tops
> of studs are going to add the same logo to the studs on clone bricks unless
> the clones use their own (separate) stud primitives. There's not currently
> any way (that I know of) for a program accessing an LDraw parts library to
> know that a particular part is a clone part.
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> The people who have modeled clone bricks could easily create a duplicate
> copy of the stud primitive and use that one instead of the official one, but
> they would loose support for stud simplification (8-sided or line). This is
> a really useful feature in programs like MLCad.
John VanZwieten had the foresight to point this out to me when I was first
planning the clone.dat project: http://news.lugnet.com/cad/dev/org/ldraw/?n=589
My initial solution was to copy the stud.dat primitive to cstud.dat, but
this caused LEdit to draw each stud, hugely increasing rendering times.
Later, I happened to rename it "studc.dat," and suddenly LEdit could render
it stud-as-line! I really only work with L3Lab, LEdit, and L3P, so I don't
know how well it works on other platforms.
Anyway, the good news is that even when rendered with L3P, the studc.dat
primitive doesn't have any logo:
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~drteeth1/clones/COMPARE1.jpg
> We could alternatively come up with a new comment directive that they could
> add to their parts file that would prevent lego-izing their studs
> Or perhaps there already is such a directive that is in active use. If so,
> please let me know, and I will see to it that LDView doesn't put the logo on
> such parts.
Well, I wouldn't want to require anyone to implement programming to
support a project that they programmers themselves might not support! 8^)
I wonder how the studc.dat file would show up in LDView--I'll have to give
it a shot and see.
Dave!
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