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    Re: DAT voting page up —Jonathan Wilson
   here is what i will do to my non-patterned parts. bar 7 x 3 with double clips: no changes baseplate 32 x 32 raised with ramp: as i said the baseplate has been fixed and sent. regarding the problem with the bottom doesn't the cnayon plate need to be (...) (25 years ago, 26-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
   
        Re: DAT voting page up —Roy Earls
      jonathan wilson wrote in message ... (...) done (...) You know, I've never looked at the bottom since you usually can't do anything with the bottom of a baseplate. Matter of fact I don't think I've ever looked at any of the real ones I have other (...) (25 years ago, 26-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
   
        Re: DAT voting page up —Todd Lehman
     (...) (Isn't it quadruple clips?) (...) Nope, it's not. Nope nope nope. Seriously, Jonathan, go buy some LEGO. Seriously. Or ask someone to snail mail you a crystal ball for heaven's sake. You shouldn't have to ask questions like this. Questions (...) (25 years ago, 26-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
    
         Re: DAT voting page up —Roy Earls
      Todd Lehman wrote in message ... (...) Old version tiles didn't have these grooves and LDraw, to my knowledge, doesn't model it because of precision. Case in point ... (...) <FLAME><FLAME THROWER><AIR SUPPORT><ICBM> Nuff said Roy (25 years ago, 26-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
    
         Re: DAT voting page up —Jeff Boen
     (...) hmmm... i never noticed that before.. that the LDraw model of 3068 (as well as other tiles) doesn't have the fingernail groove around the edge... although i say that's BS.. in my opinion (looking at a couple stacked here on the desk, up (...) (25 years ago, 26-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
    
         [3068 with groove] (was:DAT voting page up) —Jeff Boen
      (...) never (...) okay.. so here's a 3068 with the groove... any reason why we haven't already updated these??? (please feel free to let me know if i'm treading on some sacred ground or something here... but in all honesty, i don't see a problem (...) (25 years ago, 26-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
     
          Re: [3068 with groove] (was:DAT voting page up) —Todd Lehman
       (...) I think the grooves should *definitely* be added -- if someone is behooved to take the time to do the mods correctly. I just noticed the tile thing last night when I was toying around with some little chess pieces I made in LEdit which use a (...) (25 years ago, 27-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
      
           Re: [3068 with groove] (was:DAT voting page up) —Roy Earls
        Todd Lehman wrote in message ... (...) Really? Another version change. I'm thinking we need to look a little closer for a list of these version changes over the ages. How about it? Anyone else out there have more examples in this line. Todd, as an (...) (25 years ago, 27-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
      
           Re: [3068 with groove] (was:DAT voting page up) —Paul Gyugyi
        My favorite part change is the 1x2 plate with laser prongs. The height of the prongs in relation to the 1x2 plate has changed, and the two versions do not line up. -gyug (...) (25 years ago, 2-Mar-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
       
            Re: [3068 with groove] (was:DAT voting page up) —Roy Earls
         Paul Gyugyi wrote in message <36DB9CF5.6A730D96@g...yi.com>... (...) Now here is a good example of how TLG/LDraw part numbers come in handy. Paul, I'm unsure as to what part is a 1x2 plate with laser prongs. Has it been modeled in LDraw? If not, (...) (25 years ago, 2-Mar-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
       
            Re: [3068 with groove] (was:DAT voting page up) —Fredrik Glöckner
         (...) 3945.DAT Plate 1 x 2 with Handles (URL) don't know about this part nowadays, but I remember back in the days of classic space that this part came in _many_ versions. At least I can remember three different. Some has 2 unit long handles with (...) (25 years ago, 2-Mar-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
       
            Re: [3068 with groove] (was:DAT voting page up) —Steve Bliss
         (...) Part #3945, the 1x2 plate with two side handles. Steve (25 years ago, 2-Mar-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
       
            Re: [3068 with groove] (was:DAT voting page up) —Selçuk Göre
         Earls HouseHold wrote in message ... (...) Those numbers are handy, because there is no standardized name scheme. And in most common part dictionary, (I mean ldraw part name library) this part is named as " ....with handles." Selçuk (...) (25 years ago, 4-Mar-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
      
           Re: [3068 with groove] (was:DAT voting page up) —Roy Earls
        Earls HouseHold wrote in message ... (...) I've always thought it was pretty stupid to reply to your own post. So, call me stupid. Here the list of changed parts I've been able to come with. It is in no way complete or do I say it is correct. Any (...) (25 years ago, 2-Mar-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
      
           Re: [3068 with groove] (was:DAT voting page up) —Bram Lambrecht
       (...) Yes. (...) I don't think so. (...) Yes. (...) Here's another: 3062 brick 1 x 1 round 3 versions- no lip at the bottom, closed stud, and open stud. --Bram Bram Lambrecht / o o \ BramL@juno.com ---...---oooo-----(_...o---...--- WWW: (URL) (25 years ago, 3-Mar-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
      
           Re: [3068 with groove] (was:DAT voting page up) —Selçuk Göre
        Bram Lambrecht wrote in message <19990302.220734.509...no.com>... (...) Don't go that far, even regular rectangular bricks has several different versions. My oldest ones has slits through under side tubes...And there are the other ones without (...) (25 years ago, 4-Mar-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
      
           Re: [3068 with groove] (was:DAT voting page up) —Steve Bliss
       (...) The changes in the 1x1 cylinder brick are functional -- with the bottom lip, the cylinder will fit between 4 studs, and with the hole-y stud, you can put an antenna rod through the cylinder. Another functional (but less important) varied (...) (25 years ago, 4-Mar-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
     
          Re: [3068 with groove] (was:DAT voting page up) —Roy Earls
       onyx wrote in message ... (...) already (...) problem (...) Like crazy, man, now what part number do you want with your gravy. Anyone for 3068A? Roy (25 years ago, 27-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
    
         Re: DAT voting page up —Chris Dee
      (...) I recently offered to do just this and apply it to the existing decorated tiles (more than 10 minutes work to do it properly, IMHO), (URL) since I do not own all the decorated tiles myself I need guidance on which ones use the tile with the (...) (25 years ago, 26-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
     
          Re: DAT voting page up —Jeff Boen
      (...) oh yeah.. i just meant 10 minutes to do one and see how it looks... doing all of the tiles in our catalog would be at least an 11-minute job ;) J (25 years ago, 26-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
     
          Re: DAT voting page up —Roy Earls
       onyx wrote in message ... (...) all (...) Oh, man, do I need your energy. Roy (25 years ago, 27-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
    
         Re: DAT voting page up —Steve Bliss
      It's not an update. It's an A/B version thing--Tile 1x1 Old Style, Tile 1x1 New Style. Steve (...) (25 years ago, 26-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
     
          Re: DAT voting page up —Duane Hess
      Since I am not an LDraw part developer (although I did try my hand at one part), I will add my $0.02 to the fracas and be done with it. This outlook is based upon my knowledge of engineering documentation systems in the real world. With that said, (...) (25 years ago, 26-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
     
          Re: DAT voting page up —John VanZwieten
        (...) ^^^ I avoided using this word in my posts on the subject for fear I would spell it just like this, which of course is another word for dirty :-) Good points in your post, though. -John Van (25 years ago, 26-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
     
          Re: DAT voting page up —Steve Bliss
      (...) In this case, all the tile elements probably have new, 5-digit part numbers. It would be appropriate to use these numbers for new versions of the tile. In general, if TLG modifies a part but retains the original part number, appending a letter (...) (25 years ago, 1-Mar-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
    
         Re: DAT voting page up —Roy Earls
      onyx wrote in message ... (...) on (...) in (...) i (...) never (...) That's gravy, man. The more the merrier. Roy (25 years ago, 27-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
   
        Re: DAT voting page up —Steve Bliss
   (...) I think that this part is OK. I haven't done a detailed check. (...) It was. Richard actually went through some trouble to get that part correct. That's how I know what I know about the fix I suggested (in a different message): Richard went (...) (25 years ago, 26-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
   
        Re: DAT voting page up —John VanZwieten
    Steve Bliss wrote in message <36d6f2f0.17111521@l...et.com>... (...) Is the soccer ball part spherical with printed pattern, or does the physical part consist of hexagons and pentagons like a real soccer ball? -John Van (25 years ago, 26-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
   
        Soccer ball pattern —Todd Lehman
   (...) I just checked (using an actual copy of the element :) It's beautiful! -- it's actually a physical imprinted pattern in the plastic of hexagons and pentagons -- then all the pentagons are decorated black. --Todd (25 years ago, 27-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
   
        Re: Soccer ball pattern —Leonardo Zide
     (...) If we follow the standards set by James and use australian english, shouldn't we change the description ? I don't think the word "soccer" is used there. Leonardo (25 years ago, 27-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
    
         Re: Soccer ball pattern —Jonathan Wilson
      in australia they call it soccer. football refers to aussie rules. therefore soccer ball is the right name (25 years ago, 27-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
     
          Re: Soccer ball pattern —Fredrik Glöckner
      (...) Are you sure about that? Surely, in England they use the term "football", and I would guess that they use the same word in Australia. (...) Sorry, I didn't understand this sentence. (...) This doesn't convince me. Fredrik (25 years ago, 27-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
     
          Re: Soccer ball pattern —Jonathan Wilson
       (...) in australia they call the game that the soccer ball comes from soccer. (...) in australia the term football refers to the australin game aussie rules which is different. (...) (25 years ago, 27-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
     
          (canceled) —Jonathan Wilson
     
          Re: Soccer ball pattern —Leonardo Zide
      (...) I've searched the web and discovered that in Australia what they call football looks like rugby. I've only seen one picture but it's a completely different game. (...) Go to your favorite search engine and type "australian footbal". Leonardo (25 years ago, 28-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
     
          Re: Soccer ball pattern —Fredrik Glöckner
       (...) This sounds very familiar, yes. I was undoubtedly wrong. Fredrik (25 years ago, 28-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
     
          Re: Soccer ball pattern —Benoit Cerrina
       (...) Well with at least one different the Aussi rules football is WAY more violent than rugby, more like american football (25 years ago, 28-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
    
         Soccer ball name —Todd Lehman
     (...) I don't know for sure if "soccer" is used in Australia or not, but in either case, isn't "soccer" guaranteed not to be ambiguous, unlike "football" or "fussball"? In Brasil, do you say "football" or "soccer"? If you don't say "soccer," what (...) (25 years ago, 27-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
    
         Re: Soccer ball name —Leonardo Zide
      (...) In the beginning of the century, some british came here and started playing football. At that time it was common to use words from other languages but as the time passed we changed those words to portuguese and now we call it "futebol". (...) (...) (25 years ago, 28-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
     
          Re: Soccer ball name —Todd Lehman
      (...) I only get the one copy -- the one you e-mail to me (assuming it makes it to me OK, which is highly probable but not guaranteed). I also see a copy of the article you posted when I read via NNTP. If I were reading lugnet.cad.dev via e-mail (...) (25 years ago, 28-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.admin.general)
    
         Re: Soccer ball name —Benoit Cerrina
     let's just say that in France nothing comes to mind when you say soccer, it doesn't come close to any name which we use. I'm ready to bet that it is the same in Brazil (BTW we won the world cup :-P ) Todd Lehman a écrit dans le message ... (...) (...) (25 years ago, 28-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
    
         Re: Soccer ball name —Steve Bliss
     (...) Yes, but you didn't have a LEGO set for your team. :-P Unless those unconfirmed rumors were true. Nah, Matt would have had some by now... Steve (25 years ago, 1-Mar-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
   
        Re: Soccer ball pattern —Steve Bliss
   (...) Seems like there should be a soccer-ball tessalation[1] somewhere on the web, which could be ported to LDraw relatively easily. Steve [1] May be a mis-use of the term -- not sure of the limits on tessalations. (25 years ago, 1-Mar-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 

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