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Re: Recent Mecha Thoughts
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Wed, 9 Jan 2002 14:53:13 GMT
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In lugnet.build.mecha, Mladen Pejic writes:
> In lugnet.build.mecha, Mike Petrucelli writes:
> > > As I have stated before, mecha are
> > > incredibely efficient and vicious machines for war, and that is so obvious • in
> > > any well designed military mech, that it is down rights scary.  Come on!
> > > Honestly, who the hell in Binocle, Space, etc, etc, has anything that can
> > > match
> > > mechs?  Even the largest of capital ships are no match for a much smaller • than
> > > its size MS or mobile armor.
> > 
> > Now this is completly subjective and open to debate.
> > 
> > I personally build what most people consider "cute" and/or "little" fighters.
> > To me they are able to kill almost any other fighter or mech(a) with one • shot.
> > Hey my "Empire" the Galactic Confederation does not govern 107 galaxies with
> > flowers.
> > 
> > Now aside from the whole "mine is better than yours because I said so"
> > argument. To me mech(a)s are a small part of a well rounded military.  A
> > Mech(a) without fighter escort/coverage would be killed rather quickly.  The
> > best real world example is Tanks(with AA) vs. Airplanes.  No matter how good
> > the Tank is, an A-10 "Tank Killer" would make mince meat of it.
> 
> Well, you can't say that is 100% true. How about countermeasures which a
> tank can employ to block the targeting mechanism of the missile? For
> example, the Russian T-90 has a whole bunch of things that allow it to
> survive. First off, and this is true with other tanks, it take advantage of
> reactive armour which can stop deadly shaped charge weapons. Also, it has
> two infrared lights which emit coded pulsed infrared jamming when an ATGM
> (Anti-Tank Guided Missile) is detected. Against ground enemies, and
> especially during retreats, smoke dischargers can launch grenades which can
> hide a tank behind a veil of smoke. As well, they have machine guns to
> protect them from both airborne and land vehicles and troops. Tanks are also
> designed to deflect certain munitions that hit them. Although what you said
> was quite true, it wasn't the whole side of the story. Sure, missile
> technology gets better and better, but don't you think countermeasures and
> armour does as well? Oh, and for the record, of course an A-10 can defeat
> most tanks NOW, but how about in the near future?

Well my underlying point was that a Tank is part of a well rounded military.
If one relys only on Tanks, one lose rather quickly.  Same with Mech(a)s.
> 
> Just my opinion, I guess I'm just to fond of the tank to say it is becoming
> obsolete.

No Tanks are definately not obsolete.
> 
> And if you wanna talk about mecha, than you can't say anything for sure
> either. Who knows, maybe in the future mecha will be agile and swift
> machines which are designed to employ hit and run tactics. Maybe they'll
> have plenty of thrusters and will be decked out with the latest ECM suites.
> Who knows?

Over specialization is the key to defeat.

-Mike Petrucelli



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(...) Well, you can't say that is 100% true. How about countermeasures which a tank can employ to block the targeting mechanism of the missile? For example, the Russian T-90 has a whole bunch of things that allow it to survive. First off, and this (...) (25 years ago, 9-Jan-02, to lugnet.build.mecha)

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