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(...) discussions. (...) I’d argue that the problem with the admin groups is that there is too little participation on the discussions there by the general LUGNet masses. Debates tend to be dominated, normally, by the “usual suspects”. Anything (...) (25 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) That's certainly not a problem at all. The admin groups exist at all because it's better to have things out in the open for people who care, than to have them be completely private. People who care what goes on, will participate. People who (...) (25 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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"Todd Lehman" <lehman@javanet.com> wrote in message news:<Fr5sEC.L2t@lugnet.com>... (...) tree: (...) little (...) because (...) The problem is, in my opinion, not enough people care. <snippped> (...) Self Restraint (...) please (...) outside (...) (...) (25 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Are we on the same page? Yes, you suggested something involving bowdlerisation, but what you suggested was that auctions be allowed in theme discussion groups and subsequently that everyone reading those discussion groups be required to (...) (25 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Maybe we can come up with some ways to attract more people who care (and who don't want to come just to stir up mud). --Todd (25 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Scott, Give it up! I've been watching this thread for some time and frankly I'm glad Todd added the Auction and Admin filter to the main page. Your incessant whining and pestering is getting very hard to tolerate and I'm glad to have to (...) (25 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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"Todd Lehman" <lehman@javanet.com> wrote in message news:Fr6ABv.1MA@lugnet.com... (...) from (...) reduces (...) who (...) I have been reading all the messages in this group since I started to browse LUGNET (since october '99) Yet I haven't really (...) (25 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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Todd Lehman <lehman@javanet.com> wrote in message news:Fr6974.KAB@lugnet.com... (...) suggested (...) Pre-auction anouncments (...) heard!) I said fitering would be easy. I also said filtering, via a prefercences, _could_ be a option. But that is (...) (25 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I'm gonna haveta "me too" on this. I am a potential buyer in some of these auctions. I am not so dense or clueless that I would give up looking for an auction if the notices aren't thrown in my face. As such, I expect the sellers in these (...) (25 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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Frank Buiting <frank.buiting@infopulse.nl> wrote in message news:Fr6Dt6.Luu@lugnet.com... (...) browse (...) people (...) comes (...) so (...) This may be the problem. I feel new here too. But I'd like to think my opinion is just as important as a (...) (25 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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<snipped> (...) glad (...) have to (...) refresh. (...) This is not an issue with me any longer. My 1st post in this thread stated that the .acition change does not bother me - or at least it should have: (URL) I read them to see (...) I (...) This (...) (25 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Scott & Frank, what do you think about separating out some of the functions of .admin.general? (Read: Do you think less experienced users would feel more comfortable in .admin.general if some of the more "hard core" functions were moved out to (...) (25 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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Todd Lehman <lehman@javanet.com> wrote in message news:Fr6FG4.CGt@lugnet.com... (...) me, (...) feeling, (...) all (...) functions of (...) more (...) were (...) long (...) enough (...) out (...) I am not all that sure what you mean. I suppose you (...) (25 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Much better than .admin.news. I suspect many people would read that as being "news about .admin" - that would be my first guess even though I do use a newsreader and have been reading newsgroups for years. Kevin (25 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) This is A Bad Thing (tm) - everyone should be made aware of how important their opinions and thoughts are.. (...) Pffffh.. I'm pretty inexperienced! Yep - I think you're right that it does have a bit of a different aura to it, I guess I never (...) (25 years ago, 10-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Hey. That's NIFTY. Todd, can you in your copious free time collect together some of the undocumented (or not documented in a standard place) stuff and put it all in one place? Some of the different ways to look at groups by item count (...) (25 years ago, 10-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I think the best thing that happened along these lines is the "admin.council" group. The "council" really has the 'old-timers' feel to it. Issues dealing with LUGNET users are better to be decided by more experienced members of the community. (...) (25 years ago, 10-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) people (...) I (...) clearer (...) is (...) to (...) Thanks for this effort. It looks good. I think it is all too easy for issues to be lost in large threads. This sort of page would help this not to be the case. Scott A (25 years ago, 10-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Yup agreed, I may be a relative newbie to LUGNET, I'm present on the Internet since '93. A admin.newsclients group attracts post about 'how to configure Outlook/TIN' or similar. While I thought we're looking for a newsgroup to discuss (...) (25 years ago, 10-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) [Todd said] (...) [then Scott replied] (...) [and Todd replied thusly] (...) I side with Todd here. In fact, this is my first substantive post to any group in lugnet.admin.* because, frankly, I don't care to be bothered with administrative (...) (25 years ago, 10-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Todd, Are you speaking of some type of 'preferences' cookie ? Something where I could set my preferences and have the main page include/exclude the messages based on what I specified ? Ray (25 years ago, 11-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) OK, the portion of this which relates to the issues higher up on this thread is ready now. (URL) (25 years ago, 12-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) OK, it's ready -- give it a shot and lemme know what you think: (URL) I care not one whit about auctions, for example, and would like to see them (...) Try one of these: -.auction or -.market.auction or -lugnet.market.auction --Todd (25 years ago, 12-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Yup -- that's what I meant, yes. --Todd (25 years ago, 12-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Thanks! It works much better now. The roll your own filter feature is a nice added bonus. Now, can you add a way to exclude certain users? like -lehman,todd ;) (25 years ago, 12-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Oh, I'll get right on that. ;-) --Todd (25 years ago, 12-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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Cool. I gave it a +lugnet, which I think (since you're just doing character matching) will include everything and should be the same net effect on groups shown as just feeding it a blank input box... (but does it process slower??) *Since* you're (...) (25 years ago, 12-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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Todd Lehman wrote in message ... (...) thread (...) Frank (25 years ago, 12-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) That would be ever so slightly slower than an empty string, yes. I'm not sure it could be easily measured, though...talking probably something on the order of a 10^-5 second difference. (...) It's doing pure & simple character matchines, ya, (...) (25 years ago, 12-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Prolly also worth explaining somewhere that the expression is compiled left-to-right and is therefore direction-sensitive. That is, -.loc. +.loc.us.ca is very different from +.loc.us.ca -.loc. The string expression is compiled into a code (...) (25 years ago, 12-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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