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		Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
(...) Let's see: 1. Mary, unemployed, but that's okay 2. Joseph, employed, but later disappears from all record 3. James, child by marriage 4. Jesus, child by a contemporaneous extramarital union who grows up to be executed for sedition Doesn't (...) (23 years ago, 20-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
(...) This is because it takes "faith" to NOT believe in God because you have to have faith in such fatally flawed teachings as evolution,etc. or regarding whatever other theories you have about what got us here. (...) I don't know what dictionary (...) (23 years ago, 20-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
(...) Fair enough. How about this: The idea of a happy, non-dysfunctional, financially secure, single-income, white, Christian family with at least one son and one daughter, and often with a grandparent in residence. If you look at almost any (...) (23 years ago, 20-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
(...) I would suggest that the common (in the US) notion of the "traditional family" hardly ever existed at all except on TV and in the blurry nostalgia of the people. And I agree that we'd all be a lot better off if that insidious fiction were (...) (23 years ago, 20-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
(...) Atheism is not a religion, although I know Xtians like to think that it is. However we are looking at dictionary definitions here -- my dictionary says that being a Xtian can be defined as simply as "one who professes a belief in Jesus." All (...) (23 years ago, 20-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
Sorry to all for the typos in my replies within this forum...(just noticed after a little nap). I've been quite ill lately and will sign off from this debate until I can concentrate good enough to at least proof my own posts correctly :o) Justin (23 years ago, 20-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
(...) In any religion there are certain core values that one must adhere too to be considered part of the group. If your line of thinking were valid, I could call myself an atheist and still claim to believe in God and you would be powerless to (...) (23 years ago, 20-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
(...) I'm not one to even remotely come close to throwing Dubya a life line, but which president in recent history wanted to develop a consistant foreign policy? Not even Bubba attempted that task. The Saudis are 'always good', for one example. I (...) (23 years ago, 21-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
(...) This I do not know but you have an appointed president tlaking all 'christian values' and letting ownership of endangeded and wild species pass into the hands of the average joe (good legislation there) and started a 'military campaign on (...) (23 years ago, 21-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
(...) Vietnam (and a whole bunch of other war/police actions) that America got involved in for selfish reasons would be a similar situation--we wish to distance ourselves from the wrongdoings of our ancestors, or even the wrongs we've done (...) (23 years ago, 21-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
(...) <snip> (...) Scary, ain't it? K, all religious debate aside, what do we do when generals and political appointees believe their 'god given mandate'? At what point do the citizens actually shut this fiasco down? Dave K (23 years ago, 21-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
Once again, in the category of "Why Bother?"... (...) You do not get to decide that -- they do! I am pretty sure a Xtian is anyone calling themselves a Xtian, however misguided you may think their beliefs may be. For example, President Shrub thinks (...) (23 years ago, 19-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
(...) I disagree that this is not possible. How do you feel about the book of Revelation or Hell in general...don't you see these as God's justice in anger? I agree completely that He loves all equally- put the Bible also says He punishes those who (...) (23 years ago, 19-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
(...) Neo-Nazi's and the KKK are not Christians at all! The term means one that follows Christ and His teachings. There is no evidence in any of Christ's teaching that He would suppport the actions of these groups, in fact their actions are entirely (...) (23 years ago, 19-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler wrote: <snip> (...) On that we both agree! :) And the rest nicely stated. Dave K (23 years ago, 21-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Give this man a pat on the back (was Re: Holy crap!)
(...) Like the subject line says: "Give this man a pat on the back." Adr. (22 years ago, 29-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
(...) My score, as if it is any surprise. No wonder I have trouble seeing eye to eye with y'all Neo-Pagans;-) 1. Mainline to Liberal Christian Protestants (100%) 2. Mainline to Conservative Christian/Protestant (96%) 3. Orthodox Quaker (93%) 4. (...) (23 years ago, 16-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys wrote: <snip> (...) <snip> Double D'oh!!!! Grr!!! 'Twas suppose to be 2 + not 2 = 5 and 2 + 2 = not 5 !!!!!! Grr!!! crazy kid doesn't know what the h-e double hockey sicks he's talking about!! Grr!! Going (...) (23 years ago, 20-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler wrote: <snip> (...) Now that was a tremendous ST:TNG ep when Jean Luc was being tortured by the Cardassian--can't remember the quote right now, but when I heard it, it was a "Wow!" moment. And I concur with (...) (23 years ago, 20-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
(...) I also like the point of his tirade--Bible thumping Christians who think they have all the answers and like to force their POV down the throats of others is contemptable. (...) You wrote it below--is computer geek for the word 'not' 2 + not 2 (...) (23 years ago, 20-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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