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		Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
(...) Hmmm... let's see, the KKK, neo-Nazis, yep no Christians breeding violence and death at all. (...) Are you serious? (Personally I think you are being sarcastic but I don't know) I mean granted many living in dictatorships can't publicly decry (...) (21 years ago, 19-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
(...) I second that! (...) aren't perfect, and to expect Christians to act perfectly is a little over the (...) Which (in a world wide perspective) is certainly not the case with some other religions. Further, the above statement shows a complete (...) (21 years ago, 19-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
(...) Well Hoppy, I see that you're on a tirade, and, for the most part, a perfectly understandable one. However, your little rant above is not called for. I didn't mention at all my convictions, but am pointing out what may be a reasonably (...) (21 years ago, 20-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
(...) <snip> (...) Are they inherently different? Saying 2 + !2 = 5 or 2 + 2 = !5 Both equations are superfluously different, but inherently they are stating the same thing. Whether you say "I believe that God does not exist" or "I don't believe (...) (21 years ago, 20-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Holy crap! Four out of five scientists claim....
(...) Hmmm, sounds convenient (point 2 from point 1) and complicated:-) (...) Yes, I am conceding this from the beginning. (...) My point is that if you hold that the universe always existed, that is a faith statement as much as any about God having (...) (21 years ago, 16-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Holy crap! Four out of five scientists claim....
(...) I have to admit that I am surprised we are even debating this because I thought that there was consensus here. WRT to the origin of the universe, you say that "...we don't have the tools to verify our hypotheses. All in good time." Are those (...) (21 years ago, 16-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
(...) Have you ever heard of Marcion, Richard? He was an early heretic who held that the God of Jesus and Yahweh were indeed different Gods entirely. Now, I am no Marcionite, but if I were, wouldn't it be rather intolerant of you to question my (...) (21 years ago, 16-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Holy crap! Four out of five scientists claim....
(...) What I am saying is that this particular question is unique and cannot, by definition, be answered by Science. (...) Science will never come up with the answer period. Any speculation about the origin of the universe is pure flattery. Even if (...) (21 years ago, 16-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Iraq (was Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap)
(...) I agree if there were laws or even constitutional rights that caused the deaths of innocent life I would be all for removing them too. Of course removing the right of law abiding citizens to have weapons does not reduce the crime rate, even (...) (21 years ago, 23-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Iraq (was Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap)
(...) What does my opposition to a standing army have to do with the need, or right, to a militia? The militia is de facto -- it is the people themselves. There is no wiggling. I am not telling you that we are currently doing things in strict (...) (21 years ago, 22-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Iraq (was Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap)
(...) In the main, the militia merely means an armed group of freepersons that are not otherwise playing some kind of official role or duty. I mean, a sheriff might call together a posse comitatus and work closely with one -- but he remains the (...) (21 years ago, 22-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Iraq (was Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap)
(...) Well I think it was more a tongue in cheek reply to a tongue in cheek question. It is based off of the statement by George Mason “I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people, except for a few public officials.” I would say that is (...) (21 years ago, 22-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Iraq (was Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap)
(...) Is that true? I don't dispute it, but I wasn't aware of it. If it's true, then what level of gov't official is included? Dave! (21 years ago, 22-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Iraq (was Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap)
(...) Not at all. You would be 100% correct as to the meaning at the time of ratification. But collectively, the 13th and 14th Amendment gave freed slaves the status of Freemen. Knowing precisely what that meant, many freed slaves had to obtain guns (...) (21 years ago, 22-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Holy crap! Four out of five scientists claim....
(...) I know this is ploughed ground; I was specifically referring to the creation of the universe. Either God started it, or it simply started itself (neither theory is "scientific") (...) That's 5-0 Vikings to you my friend! Now I must go and (...) (21 years ago, 15-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
(...) Perhaps I was too light in my characterization. While I think that brother/sister unions are deeply taboo, I also believe that they are pathological, and that their "wrongness" possibly stems from genetics. (...) I have to believe that God is (...) (21 years ago, 15-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Holy crap! Yggdrasil's taproots...
(...) lol Really? Then you should visit Minnesota sometime;-) Actually, I meant the post Russian revolution USSR (as I'm sure you gathered) JOHN (21 years ago, 15-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
(...) Then we disagree. (...) Cultural values. (...) As far as we (or they) were able to ascertain God's will. I start from a point that God is Absolute Morality, Absolute Goodness. Any perception of God that is less than that reflects (...) (21 years ago, 15-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
(...) No, because his statement is hopelessly vague and unclear. How can you compare a religion with a government? It's apples and oranges. But you are absolutely correct that I believe Christianity is superior to other religions for me. I know (in (...) (21 years ago, 15-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Iraq (was Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap)
(...) Did you even read that cite again? Read the whole 3 message thread please: **From Bouvier's Law Dictionary and Concise Encyclopedia: POSSE COMITATUS. These Latin words signify the power of the county. Or yet again in other words: the power of (...) (21 years ago, 22-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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