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Re: Iraq (was Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap)
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Thu, 23 Oct 2003 02:40:07 GMT
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See, its the possible reducing of deaths that is my main drive. If there
are laws on the books that cause deaths, and by changing the laws, or the
interpretation thereof, and in that changing we can reduce the number of
deaths, then Im all for it.
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I agree if there were laws or even constitutional rights that caused the deaths
of innocent life I would be all for removing them too. Of course removing the
right of law abiding citizens to have weapons does not reduce the crime rate,
even though you claim it does. There is no proven correlation between firearm
ownership and the crime rate.
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Especially when that change doesnt diminish
freedoms and liberties. And no discussion here, or anywhere else, has
convinced me that if you take away the guns, you reduce the liberties.
And Id even say that you dont have to take away the guns of those that have
to undergo the same or slightly inferior discipline and use as the armed
forces. What more do you want? Its a better interprtation of the framers
intent than what Ive heard here.
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Again I must point out that there are more people in formally declared militia
groups (which means they have M-16s, SMLs, etc. and train to use them) then
there are people in the U.S. professional military.
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As for the rest, someone once said to me that Mericans want their guns in
defiance of all logical and rational debate. You, sir, have proven them
right.
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You have this optimistically idealistic belief that removing guns will make
everything better, but you have no proof of that at all. I personally will agree
that if you could eliminate every gun from the planet you would be right, but
you must surely see that is impossible to acheive.
-Mike Petrucelli
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