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Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
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Sun, 19 Oct 2003 02:44:43 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Justin Pankey wrote:
   In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:
   In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Thomas Stangl wrote:
   But you’ll never GET such an apology. John is such a PRIDEful Xtian (oops, that’s a sin, innit), that he’ll never admit that his religion started out of (i.e., is based on), and continues to breed, violence and death. He’s a Xtian Bigot, and nothing you argue will ever change his bigoted mind.



  
As far as Christianity breeding violence and death, I don’t see it.

I second that!

Hmmm... let’s see, the KKK, neo-Nazis, yep no Christians breeding violence and death at all.
  
   People aren’t perfect, and to expect Christians to act perfectly is a little over the top. And the “Christians” who persist to act in evil ways are rebuked by other Christians.

Which (in a world wide perspective) is certainly not the case with some other religions.

Are you serious? (Personally I think you are being sarcastic but I don’t know) I mean granted many living in dictatorships can’t publicly decry evil behaviour for fear of execution, but many people of those religious who live in freedom rebuke evil actions.
  
Further, the above statement shows a complete lack of knowledge regarding the number of persecuted Christians world-wide. They are the VICTIMS of violence and persecution; not the other way around.

Also Christian societies lend themselves to the freedoms and debates allowed within this news group. You don’t see millions of Americans oppressed by the religious systems (including atheism) of China, India, and the Middle East.

Millions of Arabs were not opressed by dictorships only a few generations ago. Afganistan had a thriving film industry prior to the Taliban taking over. Saddam was elected and overthrew the government from the inside out. China was one of the most advanced societies prior to the Communist revolution. On the opposite side Eastern Orthodox Christianity did not prevent the Soviet Union.

-Mike Petrucelli



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  Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
 
(...) Ah, I see. So you are willing to define a group by the few extremists in it. I guess then that you wouldn't have a problem calling Islam a religion that breeds violence and death, either. JOHN (21 years ago, 19-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
  Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
 
(...) Neo-Nazi's and the KKK are not Christians at all! The term means one that follows Christ and His teachings. There is no evidence in any of Christ's teaching that He would suppport the actions of these groups, in fact their actions are entirely (...) (21 years ago, 19-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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  Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
 
(...) I second that! (...) aren't perfect, and to expect Christians to act perfectly is a little over the (...) Which (in a world wide perspective) is certainly not the case with some other religions. Further, the above statement shows a complete (...) (21 years ago, 19-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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