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Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:38:38 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys wrote:
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Whatever our modern sensibilities may be, the Inquisition was *the essence*
of Christianity in its day, so it’s certainly appropriate to hold
Christianity responsible for the atrocities committed at that time. And
it’s no good to say “but that was 500 years ago,” because the New Testament
was 2000 years ago, and you still seem to accept that book as valid
Christianity. You can’t simply cherry-pick your Christians and omit the
rest. That’s the fallacy of selective reasoning.
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Vietnam (and a whole bunch of other war/police actions) that America got
involved in for selfish reasons would be a similar situation--we wish to
distance ourselves from the wrongdoings of our ancestors, or even the wrongs
we’ve done ourselves--“That was then, this is now”.
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That’s a good example. There has been a tendency, thanks largely to Dubya’s
inane “with us or against us” mentality, to equate patriotism with blind
faith in the righteous (some might say “God-given”) infallibility of the Bush
administration, which is of course idiocy. The US would be a stronger
nation, both morally and in the eyes of the world, if it had the integrity to
admit its national errors and transgressions. Instead, we have a lockstep
administration stridently clinging to its policies regardless of truth or
evidence.
Dave!
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I’m not one to even remotely come close to throwing Dubya a life line, but which
president in recent history wanted to develop a consistant foreign policy? Not
even Bubba attempted that task. The Saudis are ‘always good’, for one example.
I don’t know--maybe there’s something inherent in the system--that ‘re-election’
desire outweighs the ‘do what’s right’ desire.
Then again, politics has always had very hazy notion of morality.
Dave K
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