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Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
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Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:21:27 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys wrote:

  
   Whatever our modern sensibilities may be, the Inquisition was *the essence* of Christianity in its day, so it’s certainly appropriate to hold Christianity responsible for the atrocities committed at that time. And it’s no good to say “but that was 500 years ago,” because the New Testament was 2000 years ago, and you still seem to accept that book as valid Christianity. You can’t simply cherry-pick your Christians and omit the rest. That’s the fallacy of selective reasoning.

   Vietnam (and a whole bunch of other war/police actions) that America got involved in for selfish reasons would be a similar situation--we wish to distance ourselves from the wrongdoings of our ancestors, or even the wrongs we’ve done ourselves--“That was then, this is now”.

That’s a good example. There has been a tendency, thanks largely to Dubya’s inane “with us or against us” mentality, to equate patriotism with blind faith in the righteous (some might say “God-given”) infallibility of the Bush administration, which is of course idiocy. The US would be a stronger nation, both morally and in the eyes of the world, if it had the integrity to admit its national errors and transgressions. Instead, we have a lockstep administration stridently clinging to its policies regardless of truth or evidence.

Dave!



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  Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
 
(...) I'm not one to even remotely come close to throwing Dubya a life line, but which president in recent history wanted to develop a consistant foreign policy? Not even Bubba attempted that task. The Saudis are 'always good', for one example. I (...) (21 years ago, 21-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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(...) Vietnam (and a whole bunch of other war/police actions) that America got involved in for selfish reasons would be a similar situation--we wish to distance ourselves from the wrongdoings of our ancestors, or even the wrongs we've done (...) (21 years ago, 21-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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