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Final Official Statement - Maersk Second Run
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All,

I apologize for coming anywhere close to this subject again, but I felt it was important to share the official statement from our Corporate Communications group regarding the Maersk ship. I think the statement is pretty clear, so I’ll let it speak for me on this issue from this point forward.

This same statement was also posted to 1000steine’s forums, as well as the De Bouwsteen forums.

Thanks, and again, sorry for the rehash.

Jake
---
Jake McKee
Community Liaison
LEGO Community Development




MAERSK ship in LEGO bricks on sale again

In early March 2005 the LEGO Group will re-launch an exclusive model of the MAERSK SEALAND container ship that the company sold as a limited edition product last year to A.P. Møller and via LEGO Shop At Home on the internet. The reason for the re-launch is that A.P. Møller has requested another batch of the ships, which the shipping company uses as gifts – at the same time enabling the LEGO Group to sell a new consignment via LEGO Shop At Home and the company’s Brand Retail stores. We are pleased at the level of demand and also happy that we can once again offer consumers this exclusive ship.

The idea for the MAERSK ship originally emerged because the LEGO Group had found itself with a supply of light blue granulate after manufacturing a MAERSK model truck in 1997. The extra material was thus put to good use. The Company had no plans to produce more of the ships at a later date, and LEGO Shop At Home wrote at the time of the launch that it was consumers’ last chance to buy bricks of that special light blue colour.

We apologise to consumers that this information has now proved incorrect. The satisfaction of its consumers is of paramount importance to the LEGO Group. The re-launch affords even more users the opportunity to buy the popular ship. But we fully understand if some of those who purchased the ship last year feel that they were misinformed. And if we receive any complaint from such a user, we shall offer to buy the ship back.

The company has made certain minor modifications to the MAERSK SEALAND box for its re-launch in March, distinguishing it from the original box. The new box carries the wording “2005 Edition”, the MAERSK SEALAND logo on the side has been adjusted, and there are a few cosmetic changes on the front.

A few obvious questions and answers:

Have you not cheated consumers – was it not dishonest marketing?
We acted in good faith. When we launched the MAERSK container ship last year, we had no plans to manufacture more ships at a later date because we had used up the last of the special light blue granulate – and agreed with A.P. Møller to sell only a limited number. In retrospect, we very much regret the information given by LEGO Shop At Home in 2004. And if any consumer complains, we shall offer to buy the ship back from him or her.

Why have you suddenly changed your mind?
A.P. Møller has again asked us to produce a large number of ships, which the shipping company uses as gifts – at the same time making it possible for us to sell a new consignment via LEGO Shop At Home and the company’s Brand Retail stores. We have chosen to accept this opportunity because it is good business for us and because we would like to give more consumers the chance to buy this exclusive ship.

Is this year’s ship identical to the one you sold last year?
The actual model ship will be the same as last year. But the box is slightly different. It will show the wording “2005 Edition”, the MAERSK SEALAND logo on the side has been adjusted, and there are a few cosmetic changes on the front. And the stickers in the boxes are now in pre-pack bags.



(Note: The reason the stickers are now in pre-pack bags is in direct response to consumer complaints that they received bent or folder sticker sheets. Hopefully this new packaging will solve that issue)


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Re: Final Official Statement - Maersk Second Run
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In lugnet.lego, Jake McKee wrote:

<snip>

Total class. I am completely satisfied with TLG’s statement WRT to the Maersk issue and salute them for their handling of this situation. I can’t imagine a better response! Bravo, TLG!

Play On!

JOHN


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Re: Final Official Statement - Maersk Second Run
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In lugnet.lego, Jake McKee wrote:
   I think the statement is pretty clear, so I’ll let it speak for me on this issue from this point forward.

:) Somebody learned a painful lesson, sounds like. Hope the welts have healed by now. But it’s clear that the notion of LEGO not listening to its customers isn’t true.

Like John, I also want to thank TLG for handling this in a respectful way.

There are a few questions that I think will come up:
  1. There’s no word on the alternate-colored set we voted on. Is it still a possibility that the ship will run in a different color? (I personally would be tempted to buy it in the different color, but probably not another Maersk blue one.) If not, that’s understandable, although somewhat disappointing.
  2. Is the buyback offer good for MISB only, or for built sets as well? (I don’t care myself, since I built mine and am NOT sending it back. No way.)
  3. Do you know the quantity that will be available via S@H in March?
Thanks for sticking your head into the lion’s den again, Jake.

Kelly


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In lugnet.lego, Jake McKee wrote:
All,

<snip>

sign me up for at least 2! :)

Thanks Jake!

Dave K


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In lugnet.lego, Kelly McKiernan wrote:

  
  1. Do you know the quantity that will be available via S@H in March?

!!!???? Don’t answer, Jake! Run away! Run away! :-)

JOHN


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Re: Final Official Statement - Maersk Second Run
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In lugnet.lego, Jake McKee wrote:
All,

I apologize for coming anywhere close to this subject again, but I felt it
was important to share the official statement from our Corporate
Communications group regarding the Maersk ship. I think the statement is
pretty clear, so I'll let it speak for me on this issue from this point
forward.

This same statement was also posted to 1000steine's forums, as well as the De
Bouwsteen forums.

Thanks, and again, sorry for the rehash.

<snipped statement>

Good job Jake et al.  It's nice to know that LEGO is listening.  The fact that
TLG is human enough to apologize is amazing.

-Bryan


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Re: Final Official Statement - Maersk Second Run
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Thumbs up!

It is great to see Lego and Maersk would not let a 30+ year association(1) end
for such a silly thing as running out of the special color material!

Now Jake - think *Maersk train* and get to suggesting ;)~

M

(1) http://guide.lugnet.com/set/1650 came out in 1974, 31 years ago.


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(snip)

Thanks for posting this, Jake. I’m hoping to be able to purchase one of these this time around, as funds were a bit too tight for the first run. Also, I, too, would be interested in knowing the fate of the dark blue container ship.

-Joel


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Re: Final Official Statement - Maersk Second Run
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In lugnet.lego, Jake McKee wrote:


   The company has made certain minor modifications to the MAERSK SEALAND box for its re-launch in March, distinguishing it from the original box. The new box carries the wording “2005 Edition”, the MAERSK SEALAND logo on the side has been adjusted, and there are a few cosmetic changes on the front.


ARRGGHHHH!!!!!

If only they had done something similar to the Constellation Legend re-issue!!!

Oh well, I’ll get a couple more...

Paul Sinasohn LUGNET #115 BAYLUG


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Re: Final Official Statement - Maersk Second Run
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**super snippage**

Thanks Jake!

Its clear you care and listen, and that the company cares and listens.

That’s more than good enough for me!

JB


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Re: Final Official Statement - Maersk Second Run
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Not bad at all! I suppose this is as good as it can possibly get. However, this
statement should have been made a bit earlier. How long could it take to come up
with a press release like that? Or was the general idea to let the dust settle a
bit first? :)

The offer to actually buy sets back is rather spectacular, no: unheard of. Just
imagine: YOU could sell your perfectly fine LEGO back to TLG! Sounds ridiculous,
and one could say it drives that customer-satisfaction-thing a bit too far. But
I think TLG (beside trying to be nice) wishes to avoid possible (if unlikely)
legal trouble because of their earlier (and misleading) promis ... err product
information.

To me it also proves that our DOC (Department Of Complainers) here at Lugnet
(and especially the Germans) couldn't have been that wrong on the issue. Let me
tell all you counter-complainers straight away:

WE WERE RIGHT.

I'd also like to point out there's still a pretty unsatisfied customer out here!
Since we are tip-toeing around landmines anyway, let me ask if TLG would also
like to buy back the handful of blueish gray pieces I've trapped in my
quarantine bin? ;)


"Primus" Burkhard
Brick Commander (LEGO & BattleTech)
Official BattleTech & Mechwarrior Fan-Site
http://www.BrickCommander.com


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In lugnet.lego, Burkhard Schloemer wrote:

To me it also proves that our DOC (Department Of Complainers) here at Lugnet
(and especially the Germans) couldn't have been that wrong on the issue. Let me
tell all you counter-complainers straight away:

WE WERE RIGHT.

I'm not sure that's necessarily a valid conclusion. Another possible conclusion
is that you were wrong, but LEGO is such a good company at heart that they
apologised anyway in the interests of peace and harmony.


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In lugnet.lego, Jake McKee wrote:
All,

I apologize for coming anywhere close to this subject again, but I felt it
was important to share the official statement from our Corporate
Communications group regarding the Maersk ship. I think the statement is
pretty clear, so I'll let it speak for me on this issue from this point
forward.

Wow!!!  I am utterly impressed.  It is as if a responsible adult has come into a
chaotic room full of squabbling children and restored order, reason and common
sense.  Everyone leaves happy.

What would make me even more impressed?  If the squabbling children could work
this out in a polite and reasonable way amonst themselves next time around...

--
Thomas Main
thomasmain@myrealbox.com


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Re: Final Official Statement - Maersk Second Run
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In lugnet.lego, Larry Pieniazek wrote:
In lugnet.lego, Burkhard Schloemer wrote:

To me it also proves that our DOC (Department Of Complainers) here at Lugnet
(and especially the Germans) couldn't have been that wrong on the issue. Let me
tell all you counter-complainers straight away:

WE WERE RIGHT.

I'm not sure that's necessarily a valid conclusion. Another possible conclusion
is that you were wrong, but LEGO is such a good company at heart that they
apologised anyway in the interests of peace and harmony.

Larry's statement would be my personal take of the situation, given all the
observable facts, and without knowing exactly what happened behind boardroom
doors.

Dave K
-not that I want this to escalate into a debate.


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(snip)

I'd also like to point out there's still a pretty unsatisfied customer out here!
Since we are tip-toeing around landmines anyway, let me ask if TLG would also
like to buy back the handful of blueish gray pieces I've trapped in my
quarantine bin? ;)


If you don't want it, I'll take that bluish gray brick off your hands... Parts
is parts, so long as it says "LEGO" on the top of the studs...

Scott Lyttle


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In lugnet.lego, Burkhard Schloemer wrote:
To me it also proves that our DOC (Department Of Complainers) here at Lugnet
(and especially the Germans) couldn't have been that wrong on the issue. Let me
tell all you counter-complainers straight away:

WE WERE RIGHT.

I dunno if it was so much a question of being right or not-- I think the
difference of opinion was "is this a big deal" or not. There was some
disagreement about whether or not they made any "promise" to us that they broke
in re-releasing the Maersk blue again, but I know the contention was that Lego
didn't legally HAVE to do anything. Whether or not they SHOULD was another
matter, as well as whether or not our enthusiasm for the product would diminish
if they didn't.

Personally, I'm glad they apologized and made the offer to buy back Maersk ships
(although if we hear that that offer hurts the company significantly, I'll be a
lot less glad), but I didn't think it was a huge deal if they didn't do
anything.

DaveE


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In lugnet.lego, Jake McKee wrote:


Dear TLC,

the apology and the very open explanations within the “mearsk-ship-press-release” are highly welcome and fully accepted as far as I am concerned.

Thanks for listening to us AFOLs - thanks even the more for reacting and responding to our concerns.

Ben


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I’m happy, Jake. You won’t hear me complain when this old, presumable discontinued color miraculously has been brought back to life. You won’t hear me complain when any old, presumable discontinued color miraculously ..... :-)

With friendly greetings, M. Moolhuysen.


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In lugnet.lego, Larry Pieniazek wrote:
In lugnet.lego, Burkhard Schloemer wrote:
WE WERE RIGHT.

I'm not sure that's necessarily a valid conclusion. Another possible conclusion
is that you were wrong, but LEGO is such a good company at heart that they
apologised anyway in the interests of peace and harmony.

Weisst Du, warum der Teufel seine Grossmutter erschlagen hat? Weil ihr keine
Ausreden mehr eingefallen sind.

;-)

Leg Godt,
René


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In lugnet.lego, René Hoffmeister wrote:

  
Weisst Du, warum der Teufel seine Grossmutter erschlagen hat? Weil ihr keine Ausreden mehr eingefallen sind.


Google Translation: Do you know, why the devil killed his grandmother? Because you broke in no more excuses.

I know something must have gotten lost in the translation, but I still find this funny even though I don’t have a clue what it means.

jt


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In lugnet.lego, James Trobaugh wrote:
   I know something must have gotten lost in the translation, but I still find this funny even though I don’t have a clue what it means.

jt

It also means we could as well debate in German about such issues. Larry “Goodheart” P. and David “I’ll buy two!” K. will never run out of lame excuses. ;)


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In lugnet.lego, James Trobaugh wrote:
   In lugnet.lego, René Hoffmeister wrote:
   Weisst Du, warum der Teufel seine Grossmutter erschlagen hat? Weil ihr keine Ausreden mehr eingefallen sind.

Google Translation: Do you know, why the devil killed his grandmother? Because you broke in no more excuses.

I know something must have gotten lost in the translation, but I still find this funny even though I don’t have a clue what it means.

jt

Translation is:

“Do you know why Old Nick killed his grandma? Because she’s at a loss for excuses”

It’s a saying in German, but I’m just kidding in this case :-)

Leg Godt! René


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In lugnet.lego, Burkhard Schloemer wrote:
In lugnet.lego, James Trobaugh wrote:
I know something must have gotten lost in the translation, but I still find
this funny even though I don't have a clue what it means.

jt

It also means we could as well debate in German about such issues. Larry
"Goodheart" P. and David "I'll buy two!" K. will never run out of lame
excuses. ;)

Larry gets the cool 'Goodheart' nickname whilst I get 'I'll buy two'?

I want a cool nickname!

Dave "The Yellow Dart" K
-that's gotta be at least +5 or +10 right there...


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In lugnet.lego, David Koudys wrote:

Larry gets the cool 'Goodheart' nickname whilst I get 'I'll buy two'?

I want a cool nickname!

Actually Larry is really unhappy about his "cool nickname". He's complaining to
me via email. Sigh. You guys really are tough customers. But that's the way with
complainers - they're sooo hard to satisfy ... :P


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In lugnet.lego, Burkhard Schloemer wrote:
In lugnet.lego, David Koudys wrote:

Larry gets the cool 'Goodheart' nickname whilst I get 'I'll buy two'?

I want a cool nickname!

Dave, you already have one, from what I hear... :-)

Actually Larry is really unhappy about his "cool nickname".

Actually I'm not at *all* unhappy with that nickname, I'll wear it proudly.
After all, I *am* "goodhearted", I try to always expect the best from companies
and from people. How sad it must be to go around always expecting the worst.

He's complaining to me

What I'm *not* very impressed with, and what it was I mailed you about, is
characterising another possible explanation for events as a "lame excuse".
That's really not an accurate characterization, nor is it likely to move the
conversation forward usefully.

via email.

Because I wanted to keep it off the lists... I'm confused as to why you need to
reply to a private email publicly?


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In lugnet.lego, David Koudys wrote:
In lugnet.lego, Burkhard Schloemer wrote:
In lugnet.lego, James Trobaugh wrote:
I know something must have gotten lost in the translation, but I still find
this funny even though I don't have a clue what it means.

jt

It also means we could as well debate in German about such issues. Larry
"Goodheart" P. and David "I'll buy two!" K. will never run out of lame
excuses. ;)

Larry gets the cool 'Goodheart' nickname whilst I get 'I'll buy two'?

I want a cool nickname!

Wow, Dave "King of the Sheets", isn't cool?  If that's not good enough for you,
wow, you have very high expectations!  Personally, that beats some of my
nicknames by a mile, of course, that list is unfit for public consumption.

Dave "The Yellow Dart" K
-that's gotta be at least +5 or +10 right there...

Cowdice rolls... +5 + 6.
My roll......... Snake eyes.

(Apparently I'm playing Craps with a 12-sided die, man that screws with the
memorized probability!)

Janey "You can't say that, Red Brick"


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In lugnet.lego, Larry Pieniazek wrote:
What I'm *not* very impressed with, and what it was I mailed you about, is
characterising another possible explanation for events as a "lame excuse".

"Possible"? Oh come on. How about "unlikely"? Or "far-fetched"? Maybe "overly
optimistic"?
While your attitude helps stretching out a debate endlessly, it really isn't
helpful in the end. Please try to be realistic, occasionally at least. Being so
... stubbornly goodhearted can be offensive too. Someone else then believes you
offended his intellect, and on is the flame war!

I'm confused as to why you need to
reply to a private email publicly?

"Confused" is the keyword here. See, Larry, if you check the message tree
carefully you'll find out I actually replied to David "insert cool nickname
here" K.'s message and, while I was on it, just mentioned your little problem in
one line or two, because it fit the topic. Well, not THE topic, which is still
Maersk, but the topic of our little quareling club. I suggest be better quit
here and now before we all get locked up for spamming ;)
However, it's not as if I spilled the beans about something confidential, right?

And please read Mark Jordan's "Press release" again. It's hilariously funny. I'm
still in tears. The funny-false-accent-thing is really old though. I always do
the same when reading David K.s posts aloud. I'd imagine my false canadian
accent is actually quite presentable ... :P


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In lugnet.lego, David Eaton wrote:
In lugnet.lego, Burkhard Schloemer wrote:
To me it also proves that our DOC (Department Of Complainers) here at Lugnet
(and especially the Germans) couldn't have been that wrong on the issue. Let me
tell all you counter-complainers straight away:

WE WERE RIGHT.

I dunno if it was so much a question of being right or not-- I think the
difference of opinion was "is this a big deal" or not. There was some
disagreement about whether or not they made any "promise" to us that they broke
in re-releasing the Maersk blue again, but I know the contention was that Lego
didn't legally HAVE to do anything. Whether or not they SHOULD was another
matter, as well as whether or not our enthusiasm for the product would diminish
if they didn't.

Personally, I'm glad they apologized and made the offer to buy back Maersk ships
(although if we hear that that offer hurts the company significantly, I'll be a
lot less glad), but I didn't think it was a huge deal if they didn't do
anything.

DaveE

I think its an easy thing to offer to buy back the sets, since absolutely no-one
will be giving them back!  :)  I sure won't.

-Alfred


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In lugnet.lego, David Koudys wrote:
   Larry’s statement would be my personal take of the situation, given all the observable facts, and without knowing exactly what happened behind boardroom doors.

Me too, but its not really a black and white thing. Customers are customers - when they are annoyed you do your best to fix them up, whatever the technicalities of the situation.

When you are surprised by a customer reaction (remember New Coke?) you get to learn something about your customer and their relationship with your product that you didn’t know before.

I guess this time, TLG learned a little bit more about “Collectability”. If there are plenty of returns, it will prove the existence of an adult collectors market beyond doubt. Then TLG will start thinking about ways of exploiting it to a greater degree than they have in the past - with both good and bad effects for us AFOLs.


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<snippage>

If you don't want it, I'll take that bluish gray brick off your hands... Parts
is parts, so long as it says "LEGO" on the top of the studs...

Scott Lyttle

A nice, calm voice of reason.  I agree Scott.  Pieces is Pieces whatever the
color.

Ben M.


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In lugnet.lego, Burkhard Schloemer wrote:
In lugnet.lego, Larry Pieniazek wrote:
What I'm *not* very impressed with, and what it was I mailed you about, is
characterising another possible explanation for events as a "lame excuse".

"Possible"? Oh come on. How about "unlikely"? Or "far-fetched"? Maybe "overly
optimistic"?
While your attitude helps stretching out a debate endlessly, it really isn't
helpful in the end. Please try to be realistic, occasionally at least. Being so
... stubbornly goodhearted can be offensive too. Someone else then believes you
offended his intellect, and on is the flame war!

I'm confused as to why you need to
reply to a private email publicly?

"Confused" is the keyword here. See, Larry, if you check the message tree
carefully you'll find out I actually replied to David "insert cool nickname
here" K.'s message and, while I was on it, just mentioned your little problem in
one line or two, because it fit the topic. Well, not THE topic, which is still
Maersk, but the topic of our little quareling club. I suggest be better quit
here and now before we all get locked up for spamming ;)
However, it's not as if I spilled the beans about something confidential, right?

And please read Mark Jordan's "Press release" again. It's hilariously funny. I'm
still in tears. The funny-false-accent-thing is really old though. I always do
the same when reading David K.s posts aloud. I'd imagine my false canadian
accent is actually quite presentable ... :P

Since we are into German quotes, I have one for everyone....

"Der G'schedere gibt nach"

Gary istok

Loosely translated "the smarter one will let it go..."


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Since we are into German quotes, I have one for everyone....

"Der G'schedere gibt nach"

Gary istok

Loosely translated "the smarter one will let it go..."

Ops, shows how "G'scheid" I am, I can't even spell it right.

Gary Istok


Subject: 
pieces aaare pieces ... (hum "people aaare people" ...)
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In lugnet.lego, Benjamin Medinets wrote:

A nice, calm voice of reason.  I agree Scott.  Pieces is Pieces whatever the
color.

Ben M.

My thoughts exactly, Ben - way back when I was like 8 or 9 years old.
A friend of mine (same age) was building COLOR-MATCHED cars with my collection
of loose LEGO pieces. I found that rather odd. Why would he do that, I wondered?
After all, pieces are pieces, whatever the color ...

Let's be friends and sing a LEGO song together, shall we?

"Pieces aaaare pieces, so - why should it beeee ..." :)


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Re: Final Official Statement - Maersk Second Run
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In lugnet.lego, Gerhard R. Istok wrote:

Since we are into German quotes, I have one for everyone....

"Der G'schedere gibt nach"

Loosely translated "the smarter one will let it go..."

Well, by all indications that would be me then.
Damn, you really know how to get me, Gerhard! ;)


Alright then:

Larry, since I couldn't stand another of your dreary emails anyway, I apologize
for having been so particularly nasty.

Let me conclude our business with a (hopefully) final german quote:

"Gut's Nächtle!"


Subject: 
Re: pieces aaare pieces ... (hum "people aaare people" ...)
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In lugnet.lego, Burkhard Schloemer wrote:
In lugnet.lego, Benjamin Medinets wrote:

A nice, calm voice of reason.  I agree Scott.  Pieces is Pieces whatever the
color.

Ben M.

My thoughts exactly, Ben - way back when I was like 8 or 9 years old.
A friend of mine (same age) was building COLOR-MATCHED cars with my collection
of loose LEGO pieces. I found that rather odd. Why would he do that, I wondered?
After all, pieces are pieces, whatever the color ...

Let's be friends and sing a LEGO song together, shall we?

"Pieces aaaare pieces, so - why should it beeee ..." :)

Great, now I'll have that song and 80's flashback in my mind for the rest of the
day.  Who was that group that did that song?

Earlier it was mentioned "Parts is Parts"  - that was from a KFC commercial from
about the same time.

-Patrick


Subject: 
Re: pieces aaare pieces ... (hum "people aaare people" ...)
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In lugnet.lego, Patrick S. O'Donnell wrote:
In lugnet.lego, Burkhard Schloemer wrote:

After all, pieces are pieces, whatever the color ...

Let's be friends and sing a LEGO song together, shall we?

"Pieces aaaare pieces, so - why should it beeee ..." :)

Great, now I'll have that song and 80's flashback in my mind for the rest of the
day.  Who was that group that did that song?

Earlier it was mentioned "Parts is Parts"  - that was from a KFC commercial from
about the same time.

-Patrick

Depeche Mode is the answer to that trivia question.
Eric


Subject: 
Re: Final Official Statement - Maersk Second Run
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You can't be Mr. Black. If I let you be Mr. Black, then everybody'll want to
be Mr. Black. So you're Mr. Pink.

"David Koudys" <dkoudys@redeemer.on.ca> wrote in message
news:IAzw7G.1uCI@lugnet.com...
In lugnet.lego, Burkhard Schloemer wrote:
In lugnet.lego, James Trobaugh wrote:
I know something must have gotten lost in the translation, but I still
find
this funny even though I don't have a clue what it means.

jt

It also means we could as well debate in German about such issues. Larry
"Goodheart" P. and David "I'll buy two!" K. will never run out of lame
excuses. ;)

Larry gets the cool 'Goodheart' nickname whilst I get 'I'll buy two'?

I want a cool nickname!

Dave "The Yellow Dart" K
-that's gotta be at least +5 or +10 right there...


Subject: 
Re: pieces aaare pieces ... (hum "people aaare people" ...)
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lugnet.color
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In lugnet.lego, Eric Strand wrote:
In lugnet.lego, Patrick S. O'Donnell wrote:
In lugnet.lego, Burkhard Schloemer wrote:

After all, pieces are pieces, whatever the color ...

Let's be friends and sing a LEGO song together, shall we?

"Pieces aaaare pieces, so - why should it beeee ..." :)

Great, now I'll have that song and 80's flashback in my mind for the rest of the
day.  Who was that group that did that song?

Earlier it was mentioned "Parts is Parts"  - that was from a KFC commercial from
about the same time.

-Patrick

Depeche Mode is the answer to that trivia question.
Eric

A few more words:

Pieces are pieces so why should it be
Bley and grey should get along so awfully?
...
You know they're different colours and they're different creeds,
but different pieces have different needs
...
Help me understand
What makes a Tan hate another Tan?
Help me understand
...

The original song acknowledged differences in skin tone and culture, asking why
that should lead to hatred.  It begs the question "Do we have Lego piece
racism?".  Are bleys considered as the new Lego genetic underclass?  Has anyone
committed Lego piece ethnic cleansing by eradicating all bley from their
collection? :-)

FUT to .color

Mark


Subject: 
Nickname
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In lugnet.lego, Tony Kilaras wrote:
You can't be Mr. Black. If I let you be Mr. Black, then everybody'll want to
be Mr. Black. So you're Mr. Pink.

Umm.... *coughs*  Hi guys!  :)


Norbert Black


Subject: 
Re: Final Official Statement - Maersk Second Run
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In lugnet.lego, Jake McKee wrote:

   Lost of snipping

This is great news. I’m not even going to read the rest of the thread since far to much discussion has been had about this issue and i don’t feel like getting involved. All i an say is that i’m getting one of these when they’re out.

Can we please leave TLG alone now.


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Re: pieces aaare pieces ... (hum "people aaare people" ...)
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(snip)

Earlier it was mentioned "Parts is Parts"  - that was from a KFC commercial from
about the same time.

-Patrick

Actually, it's from an old Wendy's commercial, about the same time as Clara
Peller and "Where's the Beef!"...those commercials were directed by Joel
Sedelmaier, an award winning commercial director.  If you ever get a hold of the
old VCR game "commercial crazies", it's got a lot of his old commercials
(Wendy's, Alaska air, PSA air, Federal Express, Subaru, one of the bell
telephone companies, some other ones as well..one of my favorites features an
award winning professor who goes bonkers after reading a life insurance
policy..)

-Scott


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