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    About the term "AFOL" —Christian Treczoks
   Hi, Yes, of course I know _what_ an AFOL is. But: Who created this term? When? And where? The r.t.l. FAQ does not mention the term (and I never read it "back then", IIRC), so it could be newer. Other FAQs only give "AFOL=Adult Fan Of LEGO". Any (...) (19 years ago, 25-May-05, to lugnet.general, lugnet.faq)
   
        Re: About the term "AFOL" —Adrian Egli
     (...) I did some looking around via Google's newsgroup database and found reference to the term in RTL back in June of 1995. (URL) about the long link) I also tried searching under "adult fan of lego" and got much the same as above but I like what I (...) (19 years ago, 25-May-05, to lugnet.general, lugnet.faq)
   
        Re: About the term "AFOL" —Larry Pieniazek
     (...) IIRC: Todd, Here, a long time ago. YMMV. (19 years ago, 25-May-05, to lugnet.general, lugnet.faq)
    
         Re: About the term "AFOL" —David Eaton
     (...) Heh, not according to Todd :) (URL) got it right-- Jeff Thompson appears to be the first one who used the term "Adult Fan Of Lego" on RTL (June 13, 1995), and Matthew Verdier first brought light to the acronym in reference to Jeff's post (June (...) (19 years ago, 25-May-05, to lugnet.general, lugnet.faq)
    
         Re: About the term "AFOL" —Dave Schuler
      (...) Was Jeff "Nephilim?" There were giants in the earth in those days. Wow. June 1995. I'm a newbie--I only started posting to RTL in January of 1998. Dave! (19 years ago, 25-May-05, to lugnet.general, lugnet.faq)
     
          Re: About the term "AFOL" —David Eaton
       (...) The emails matched up, so I would assume that was him. (...) Hey, I'm even newer! I started reading sporatically in early '99, and started posting in... The summer of '99 sometime. I believe someone was just talking about how there was (...) (19 years ago, 25-May-05, to lugnet.general, lugnet.faq)
      
           Re: About the term "AFOL" —Shaun Sullivan
        (...) My earliest post was 29 Nov 1995 - good grief! .s (19 years ago, 25-May-05, to lugnet.general, lugnet.faq)
      
           Re: About the term "AFOL" —Jason S. Mantor
       I guess that makes me old : ( Google shows a post from Sept '93 as my oldest... (...) (19 years ago, 25-May-05, to lugnet.general, lugnet.faq)
      
           Re: About the term "AFOL" —John Neal
       (...) Old??? You're a living fossil! :-) JOHN (19 years ago, 26-May-05, to lugnet.general, lugnet.faq, FTX)
     
          Re: About the term "AFOL" —John Neal
       (...) A "vet" compared to me, Dave! It appears my earliest post to RTL was October 3, 1998 (Yes, it was regarding LEGO trains:-) I discovered LUGNET in Jan '99.... JOHN (19 years ago, 25-May-05, to lugnet.general, lugnet.faq, FTX)
     
          Re: About the term "AFOL" —Thomas Stangl
       Wow, I looked up my posts, and the earliest they had was May 11, 1998. Though that was a post from Larry about my liking the jeep in 6405, so I know I must have posted earlier than that. Not too much earlier, though, as it was Brian Kendig that (...) (19 years ago, 25-May-05, to lugnet.general)
     
          Re: About the term "AFOL" —Russell Clark
       (...) My first post to r.t.l. was August 9, 1995. Good grief. Russell BayLUG/BayLTC (19 years ago, 25-May-05, to lugnet.general, lugnet.faq)
      
           Re: About the term "AFOL" —Larry Pieniazek
       (...) Wow, missed beating out Nephilim by THAT much. let's trim lugnet.faq off the FUT, ok? (19 years ago, 25-May-05, to lugnet.general, lugnet.faq)
     
          Re: About the term "AFOL" —Adrian Egli
       (...) I did some looking and found June 1997 was mine but I -know- I was browsing before then, like early 1996. Adr. (19 years ago, 25-May-05, to lugnet.general)
     
          Re: About the term "AFOL" —James Trobaugh
      (...) Looks like my first post was in Sep 15 1996, cool. jt (19 years ago, 26-May-05, to lugnet.general, lugnet.faq)
    
         Re: About the term "AFOL" —Larry Pieniazek
      (...) mmmKay, whatever... I DID say ****IF**** I remember correctly. Oh well. (19 years ago, 25-May-05, to lugnet.general, lugnet.faq)
    
         Re: About the term "AFOL" —Christian Treczoks
     (...) May I blatantly copy your words to create a Wikipedia article for the term "AFOL"? Yours, thankfully, Christian (19 years ago, 27-May-05, to lugnet.general, lugnet.faq)
    
         Re: About the term "AFOL" —David Eaton
     (...) Go right ahead! I tried checking briefly to see instances of how often 'AFOL' was used to mean 'Adult Friend Of Lego' (because I've seen it said that it can mean either), however I could only find about 5 occurances of it being used that way (...) (19 years ago, 27-May-05, to lugnet.general, lugnet.faq)
    
         The Wikipedia Article (was: Re: About the term "AFOL") —Christian Treczoks
     (...) OK, I went. And this is the result: (URL) with any Wikipedia article, everyone is free to correct or improve the entry. Yours, Christan Trezoks (19 years ago, 31-May-05, to lugnet.general, lugnet.faq)
    
         Re: The Wikipedia Article (was: Re: About the term "AFOL") —David Eaton
     (...) Updated a bit, under the 'community' bit, since RTL was really the second online community, being preceeded by ATL. There was mention recently about the Lego community in 1991 (in reference to the switch to 9V tracks), but I don't know if that (...) (19 years ago, 31-May-05, to lugnet.general, lugnet.faq)
    
         Re: The Wikipedia Article —Christian Treczoks
     (...) Thank you for the correction. I joined the community back in about 1994 on RTL, and now that you mention it, I remember to have heard of an alt.toys.lego, although not more than hearsay. (...) Well, just do it. Wikipedia is a new encyclopedia (...) (19 years ago, 1-Jun-05, to lugnet.general, lugnet.faq)
   
        Re: About the term "AFOL" —Joe Strout
   This is a good question -- as a relative newbie to the community, I've often regretted that this is the standard acronym. It's pronunciation is unclear; I've heard old AFOLs say anything from "A.F.O.L." (i.e. just spelling it) to "A-full" (long (...) (19 years ago, 25-May-05, to lugnet.general, lugnet.faq)
   
        Re: About the term "AFOL" —Jason Spears
   (...) I'm in agreement with you on this, I'm not so much a fan, as an enthusiast. And I describe myself to others as such. (...) Sure, if enough of the community recognized that one particular acronym was better. Shifting gears isn't easy but can be (...) (19 years ago, 26-May-05, to lugnet.general, lugnet.faq, FTX)
   
        Re: About the term "AFOL" —Mike Walsh
    "Jason Spears" <spielboyAT@gmail.com> wrote in message news:IH3xAr.st8@lugnet.com... [ ... snipped ... ] (...) enthusiast. And (...) [ ... snipped ... ] I posted a few weeks ago regarding my feelings of the term "AFOL": (URL) my post, I don't think (...) (19 years ago, 26-May-05, to lugnet.general, lugnet.faq)
   
        Re: About the term "AFOL" —David Eaton
     (...) What aspect of the term do you feel is inaccurate? From your post, it would seem that you object to the word "fan", because it implies a stronger dedication than the word "hobbyist"? Of course, the resulting acronym with "Hobbyist" is .. uh... (...) (19 years ago, 26-May-05, to lugnet.general, lugnet.faq)
    
         Re: About the term "AFOL" —Leonard Hoffman
      (...) I personally dislike refering to myself in accronym form. Accronyms are pretty much an indicator of complete geekishness, which, when cruising the beach for babes, I try to avoid. I usually say "LEGO Fan" and "LEGO Fan Community", and then (...) (19 years ago, 26-May-05, to lugnet.general)
     
          Re: About the term "AFOL" —David Eaton
      (...) I used to like it until someone pronounced my initials (DPE) as "Dippy". Actually (man, this is going off-topic FAST), when I was a wee one of about 7 years old or so, my name betrayed me. My mom was "Moo-Moo". You'd be "Loo-Loo Hoo-Hoo". Jake (...) (19 years ago, 26-May-05, to lugnet.people)
    
         Let's replace "AFOL" with "ALE" —Joe Strout
      (...) It's not just you, Mike -- I feel much the same way. (David replied) (...) I'm sure there are such cases, but from what I've seen, the majority of people in this community really are much more enthusiastic about LEGO bricks than clone bricks. (...) (19 years ago, 26-May-05, to lugnet.general)
     
          Re: Let's replace "AFOL" with "ALE" —Thomas Main
      (...) I dislike the term "AFOL" and would gladly support a shift to use "ALE" or another non-acronym based phrase. -- Thomas Main thomasmain@myrealbox.com (19 years ago, 27-May-05, to lugnet.general)
    
         Re: About the term "AFOL" —Mike Walsh
      "David Eaton" <deaton@intdata.com> wrote in message news:IH42Lw.1wsw@lugnet.com... [ ... snipped ... ] (...) would seem (...) dedication than (...) .. (...) [... snipped ... ] Yes, I believe you are correct, it is the term "fan" I have an issue (...) (19 years ago, 26-May-05, to lugnet.general)
   
        Re: About the term "AFOL" —Suzanne Rich Green
   (...) Suz's drive-by butt-in.. I don't use AFOL in ref to myself because I don't like it either. Not that it's -horrible-, but I don't feel as though it covers me. "Fan" implies "fanatic", which I'm not. (Though I certainly was ten years ago..) Plus (...) (19 years ago, 26-May-05, to lugnet.general, lugnet.faq)
   
        Re: About the term "AFOL" —Allan Bedford
   (...) This is probably my biggest issue with it as well. When I hear the word 'fan' I have a hard time disassociating it from 'fanatic'. Also, I work in an environment where I'm besieged with acronyms daily... sometimes two or three per sentence. I (...) (19 years ago, 26-May-05, to lugnet.general, lugnet.faq)
   
        Re: About the term "AFOL" —Jason S. Mantor
   Nice. I'm going to adopt this one myself : ) (...) (19 years ago, 26-May-05, to lugnet.general, lugnet.faq)
 

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