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Re: Mirrored parts and studs
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lugnet.cad.dev
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Wed, 2 Jul 2003 05:23:45 GMT
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In lugnet.cad.dev, Steve Bliss wrote:
> In lugnet.cad.dev, Orion Pobursky wrote:
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> > 1.) Nothing is wrong with the part. The stud logos are added by an external
> > program and are not part of the DAT code. This is, therefore, a limitation of
> > the external program and not of the part itself.
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> That is my opinion. The programs should be changed, rather than the
> parts.
And mine as well. If LDView can correct for this then so can any other program.
The stud logos are a bonus feature offered by many programs but are not
officailly supported by the LDraw spec.
> One thing to consider: even if we 'fix' all the part files so that all
> studs render non-mirrored logos, mirrored logos can still occur. For
> example, if someone created a left-hand wing for an airplane, they might
> make the right-hand counterpart via a mirrored reference to the left
> wing:
> 1 7 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 leftwing.ldr
> 1 7 0 0 0 -1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 leftwing.ldr
> In this scenario, L3P will render mirrored logos on the right wing's
> studs.
This further supports my position on this matter
> However, I'm willing to go with the idea outlined by Chris and Dave! I
> think that is a reasonable compromise, despite what I said in the past
> about extra work and extra subfiles.
My problem with the studless subpart is that we'll set a precident that may be deterimental. What if we have 2 32x32 baseplates that are mirror images? would we have two files with 100+ stud that are exactly the same with the exception of the part being mirrored? This will only serve to increase render time since we mow have to parse and extra subfile.
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> I definitely would not hold a part because the studs aren't all lined
> up!
I agree that this is a pretty petty reason for a hold vote
To sum up:
If LDView can correct for this, any program can. The extra work and subfile
clutter are just not worth it for a nice-to-have-but-not-required bonus feature.
--Orion
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Message has 2 Replies:
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| (...) After thinking about it for a while, I totally agree. If anyone wants to make perfect rendering with stud logos lined up correctly (how often does this occur?), I assume this person must have the knowledge to inline that part locally at (...) (21 years ago, 2-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
| | | Re: Mirrored parts and studs
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| (...) A fair point, but how often would that happen, realistically? Enough to be a problem? Even if one or two parts eventually turn up like that, why would the whole system have to be jettisoned for those few exceptions? (...) I'm not sure that (...) (21 years ago, 3-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: Mirrored parts and studs
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| (...) That is my opinion. The programs should be changed, rather than the parts. One thing to consider: even if we 'fix' all the part files so that all studs render non-mirrored logos, mirrored logos can still occur. For example, if someone created (...) (21 years ago, 2-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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