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Re: Mirrored parts and studs
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Date: 
Tue, 1 Jul 2003 20:16:40 GMT
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In lugnet.cad.dev, Orion Pobursky wrote:
There is somewhat of a disagreeance going on over at the PT about mirrored parts
and I thought I'd bring it to the whole community to discuss.

Here's a little background for the non initiated:

In order to same time and DAT code if a part has a mirrored brother then one
part reference the other and applies a mirrored matrix.  For example, the
Technic Panel #1 just references Technic Panel #2 and applies the matrix

-1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1

This is the preferred way to represent a mirrored part pair.  There is no
disagreement about this methed of coding parts.  The problem comes in when you
add studs.

If you have stud the the part and apply a mirror matrix, most of the time
nothing is wrong. Along comes L3P or LDView that, based on user preference, add
the LEGO logo to the top of the studs.  If the part is a mirror part then the
added logos also show up mirrored. Here's where we get 2 dissenting opinons:

1.)  Nothing is wrong with the part.  The stud logos are added by an external
program and are not part of the DAT code.  This is, therefore, a limitation of
the external program and not of the part itself.

2.)  The part itself is flawed in that the studs are mirrored.  We should redo
all the mirrored parts with stud in such a way that the studs are not mirrored.

My question to the reader of this post is:

What do you prefer?

Good summation. My preference is 1... a sufficiently clever convertor could
perhaps detect this rotation and use rotated versions of the studs that it
substitutes somehow in a preprocess step???

If there is a way to do 2 (perhaps with a comment or keyword similar to BFC to
denote that there is an extra mirroring somewhere??? but no other change to the
part...) that might work but it would require a lot of parts to change. I would
be opposed to the parts being completely recreated.

Thanks for bringing this up. My opinion is easily swayed, BTW...

Also I have another issue to surface/resurface which I iwll do in a separate
post



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There is somewhat of a disagreeance going on over at the PT about mirrored parts and I thought I'd bring it to the whole community to discuss. Here's a little background for the non initiated: In order to same time and DAT code if a part has a (...) (21 years ago, 1-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)

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