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| | | "Mike Stanley" <cjc@NOSPAMnewsguy.com> wrote in message news:G2qJ13.95M@lugnet.com... (...) a (...) sap who (...) overly-nice (...) person (...) many (...) he (...) can (...) that he (...) "apology" - (...) therefore (...) I'm a bit unsure on the (...) (24 years ago, 20-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | Re: My Stance —Eric Joslin
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| | | | | (...) Why should he not express how he feels? If he leaves it there, and you don't like it, no one is forcing you to go to his site and look at it, or to say that it's right. Why should taking that off his site be a contingency of his being accepted (...) (24 years ago, 20-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | Re: My Stance —Tim Courtney
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| | | | | | "Lorbaat" <eric@nospam.thirteen.net> wrote in message news:G2qso5.AAH@lugnet.com... (...) Why should he express that in a manner that attacks the community he claims to want to be a part of? (...) to (...) And no one is forcing me to accept his (...) (24 years ago, 20-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: My Stance —Eric Joslin
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| | | | | | (...) I think you're confusing the Lugnet community with the LDraw community. Don't. (...) I would think removing it, when he's made it clear he still doesn't feel it was wrong, would be insincere. (...) Do you actually know the definition of the (...) (24 years ago, 20-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: My Stance —Selçuk Göre
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| | | | | | Lorbaat wrote: <snip> (...) I think you are stretching a bit Eric. Forget about the JJ icon and look at his "document" about "My views about the self entitled "Lego Community"." (URL) (note the name of the html!!) You respected a community and want (...) (24 years ago, 20-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: My Stance —Eric Joslin
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| | | | | | (...) Sorry, but I don't. (...) He's simply stating some things he doesn't like about the Lego community as he sees it. What's the problem with that? Once again, what it comes down to is this: Over on *his* site, which you are under no obligation to (...) (24 years ago, 21-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: My Stance —Selçuk Göre
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| | | | | | (...) I think we are not talking about "excluding him from Lugnet", he is already excluded in some way, and not for his web content. What we are talking about is whether his apologies are sincere or not. And his web content makes me believing the (...) (24 years ago, 21-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: My Stance —Eric Joslin
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| | | | | | (...) No, I'm pretty sure we are, since there are people that are still telling Todd they want to see him banned permanently. I don't think that's right, and apparently (based on other people's posts here) I'm not alone in thinking that. Based on (...) (24 years ago, 21-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | Re: My Stance —Eric Kingsley
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| | | | (...) Sorry Tim but I think you are wrong here. Do I think the graphic on Matthew's site is distasteful? Yes. Do I care about the other text there? Not really. We cannot make the content of someone's personal site a prerequisite for inclusion in the (...) (24 years ago, 20-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | Re: My Stance —Tim Courtney
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| | | | | "Eric Kingsley" <kingsley@nelug.org> wrote in message news:G2qtCJ.CHJ@lugnet.com... (...) Matthew's (...) really. (...) like (...) I should correct myself - not *should* in the sense of a clearcut condition, but as a willful action to demonstrate to (...) (24 years ago, 20-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | Re: My Stance —Eric Kingsley
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| | | | | | (...) <snip? (...) First I should appoligize because "Clouds" was not the right word. What I was trying to say is that I think you feel a closer connection with James and his legacy than many of us do. That makes what Matthew did more personal to (...) (24 years ago, 20-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: My Stance —Selçuk Göre
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| | | | | | Eric Kingsley wrote: <snip> (...) I will be agreeing you on this for a different case but not this. We are not trying to rationalize to TOS him because of his web content. It's just his web content is another evidence for making his (in my mind) (...) (24 years ago, 20-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: My Stance —Anders Isaksson
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| | | | | | Selçuk Göre skrev i meddelandet <39F0D9E8.9A73C9F@su...ne.com>... (...) what (...) I don't think 'suspicions' are enough to judge anyone. 'Evidence' is what's used for that. The evidence in this case are the messages posted on lugnet, nothing else. (...) (24 years ago, 21-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: My Stance —Selçuk Göre
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| | | | | | (...) Friends, I know I'm not very fluent in this language which is native to me, so I rewording it again: He started a flame war. He did that knowingly, and he even chose the person to flame by rather randomly, since he did that just for the sake (...) (24 years ago, 21-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: My Stance —Matthew Moulton
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| | | | | | (...) So the ENTIRE flame war was all me, huh? No one else participated at all? No one else helped add fuel to the fodder? That's kinda funny cause that's not exactly how I remember it. (...) Hey look, a conspiracy theory. Oh hey, here's a thought, (...) (24 years ago, 22-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: My Stance —Todd Lehman
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| | | | | | | (...) Not accurate, no. Beside the point, nobody who wrote me was upset by your views -- only by your attitude and immature behavior level .space and .off-topic.debate. --Todd (24 years ago, 22-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: My Stance —Selçuk Göre
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| | | | | | (...) I don't mean even a bit by the above paragraph it was all you, and the flame war is not a big thing to me as alone. The paragraph is just a chronology, so I put it back to it's original form. (...) Read below. Besides, bet I care even a bit (...) (24 years ago, 22-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | Re: My Stance —James Brown
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| | | | (...) In general, I agree with you. However, Matthew used his website (in my opinion) as a tool to damage and disrupt the community. He crafted lies and misdirections, then posted something designed to stand out and direct traffic at his site. I (...) (24 years ago, 20-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | Re: My Stance —Eric Kingsley
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| | | | In lugnet.admin.general, James Brown writes: <snip> (...) Agreed. (...) Agreed. (...) Definitely Agree. (...) If it was posted here I would agree but I don't think it was. It may have been posted on his site or sent to Todd and then he admitted to (...) (24 years ago, 20-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | Re: My Stance —Mike Stanley
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| | | | | (...) For what it's worth (not much) I'd wager I got you both beat on that issue. ;) (...) I've requested that all of my posts (well, not counting this one, I guess) on this topic be removed. I didn't add anything productive to this discussion, and (...) (24 years ago, 20-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | Re: My Stance —James Brown
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| | | | | (...) I can't recall where exactly he said it (in a couple places, I think), but Matthew admitted in a post on Lugnet that he faked the content on his website and made the inflamatory remarks that he did specifically to damage the Lego community. (...) (24 years ago, 20-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | Re: My Stance —Eric Kingsley
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| | | | | | (...) Well that definitely wasn't nice if thats how it happened. *But* how much damage do you think he could have done to us from his site? From a technical standpoint his site is nice but not something that is going to generate a ton of hits on its (...) (24 years ago, 20-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | Re: My Stance —Ka-On Lee
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| | | | (...) been (...) It was actually only one year ago. He remembered it wrong. (24 years ago, 20-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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