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Re: New mod to double decker passenger train
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Date: 
Tue, 25 Jan 2000 00:48:49 GMT
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John Neal <johnneal@uswest.net> wrote in message
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Mike Poindexter wrote:

John Neal <johnneal@uswest.net> wrote in message

These coaches were about 80 feet (25 m), so they were *long*.  When I • build 8
wide, I figure 1 stud to 1 ft,  and still my coaches are only 60 studs • long.
I'd love to make them 80, but they wouldn't be able to handle the LEGO • track
curves very well.  I build them upon 2 in line wagon plates, which • ends up
being
a nice size.

John, since they are 10' wide and 8 studs, shouldn't 1 stud = 1.25 feet?
That will cut down the length and actually make it much better • proportioned.
I am using 1.25'=1 stud for my 8 wides.  It seems strange that the • leader of
the 8 wide revolution can't even do the math right.  :-)

Touché;)  The only problem with 1 stud equaling 1.25 feet is that standard
track gauge in North America is 4 feet 8.5 inches, and the gauge of our • track
is almost 5 studs, which would translate in a gauge of about 6'!!  By • rights we
*should* be modeling 10 wide, but even 10 is getting too huge (vs 14;)

If we went with strictly the track guage, then we will be destined to
problems of tipping over much worse than actual trains, since they have a
low center of mass and our trains do not.  There is no work around for this
outside adding weights to the bottoms of our cars, which make the motor
problem even worse.  No way a Lego motor will haul 20 plus large cars with
weights up an incline or through an S curve.


So 1:1 gives our track gauge almost 5', which is close to 4'8.5".  And • since a
minifig is about 5 studs tall, a 5 foot tall population isn't out of the
question.  Things don't work out quite evenly, but 8 seems to be a good
compromise over 10.

-John

If we went by minifig scales, we are going to have a problem, since they are
not in scale with anything.  I think the Technic figs are fairly well scaled
and proportioned.  Unfortunately, they are entirely too large for our
trains.

If each stud worked out to 1.25 feet, then the minifig would be 6'3", which
is not too bad, since they are almost all men.  Unfortunately, they would
also be 2'6" wide at the hips.  Too many Pizzas to go, I guess.

I think that works out to 48:1 scale.  The 1 stud = 1 foot is a scale of
about 38:1.

As for scale, I would stick with 48:1, which puts one stud at 15 inches.  6
wide for trucks would translate to 7.5 feet wide, which is pretty close.  At
one stud equaling 1 foot, then the train should be 10 wide and trucks 8
wide.  With my scale of 1.25 ft/stud, trains should be 8 wide (very close),
trucks 6 wide (pretty close) without compromising the scale at all, just a
little rounding error.  And minifigs are just tall and fat, much like a
large portion of the American population.

Mike Poindexter



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(...) That's what's kewl about my 14 wide-- Belville children (As adults) are just the right scale! (...) I like to think it is because of the extra amount of gravity in the Minifig world;-) (...) Well, 1:48 *is* O scale, and 8 studs wide is (...) (24 years ago, 25-Jan-00, to lugnet.trains)

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(...) Touché;) The only problem with 1 stud equaling 1.25 feet is that standard track gauge in North America is 4 feet 8.5 inches, and the gauge of our track is almost 5 studs, which would translate in a gauge of about 6'!! By rights we *should* be (...) (24 years ago, 24-Jan-00, to lugnet.trains)

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