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Re: New mod to double decker passenger train
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Tue, 25 Jan 2000 09:29:43 GMT
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Mike Poindexter wrote:
> John Neal <johnneal@uswest.net> wrote in message
> news:388CDC3B.3A3FC2AC@uswest.net...
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> >
> > Mike Poindexter wrote:
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> > > John Neal <johnneal@uswest.net> wrote in message
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> > > > These coaches were about 80 feet (25 m), so they were *long*. When I • build 8
> > > > wide, I figure 1 stud to 1 ft, and still my coaches are only 60 studs • long.
> > > > I'd love to make them 80, but they wouldn't be able to handle the LEGO • track
> > > > curves very well. I build them upon 2 in line wagon plates, which • ends up
> > > being
> > > > a nice size.
> > >
> > > John, since they are 10' wide and 8 studs, shouldn't 1 stud = 1.25 feet?
> > > That will cut down the length and actually make it much better • proportioned.
> > > I am using 1.25'=1 stud for my 8 wides. It seems strange that the • leader of
> > > the 8 wide revolution can't even do the math right. :-)
> >
> > Touché;) The only problem with 1 stud equaling 1.25 feet is that standard
> > track gauge in North America is 4 feet 8.5 inches, and the gauge of our • track
> > is almost 5 studs, which would translate in a gauge of about 6'!! By • rights we
> > *should* be modeling 10 wide, but even 10 is getting too huge (vs 14;)
>
> If we went with strictly the track guage, then we will be destined to
> problems of tipping over much worse than actual trains, since they have a
> low center of mass and our trains do not. There is no work around for this
> outside adding weights to the bottoms of our cars, which make the motor
> problem even worse. No way a Lego motor will haul 20 plus large cars with
> weights up an incline or through an S curve.
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> >
> > So 1:1 gives our track gauge almost 5', which is close to 4'8.5". And • since a
> > minifig is about 5 studs tall, a 5 foot tall population isn't out of the
> > question. Things don't work out quite evenly, but 8 seems to be a good
> > compromise over 10.
> >
> > -John
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> If we went by minifig scales, we are going to have a problem, since they are
> not in scale with anything. I think the Technic figs are fairly well scaled
> and proportioned. Unfortunately, they are entirely too large for our
> trains.
That's what's kewl about my 14 wide-- Belville children (As adults) are just
the right scale!
> If each stud worked out to 1.25 feet, then the minifig would be 6'3", which
> is not too bad, since they are almost all men. Unfortunately, they would
> also be 2'6" wide at the hips. Too many Pizzas to go, I guess.
I like to think it is because of the extra amount of gravity in the Minifig
world;-)
> I think that works out to 48:1 scale. The 1 stud = 1 foot is a scale of
> about 38:1.
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> As for scale, I would stick with 48:1, which puts one stud at 15 inches. 6
> wide for trucks would translate to 7.5 feet wide, which is pretty close. At
> one stud equaling 1 foot, then the train should be 10 wide and trucks 8
> wide. With my scale of 1.25 ft/stud, trains should be 8 wide (very close),
> trucks 6 wide (pretty close) without compromising the scale at all, just a
> little rounding error. And minifigs are just tall and fat, much like a
> large portion of the American population.
Well, 1:48 *is* O scale, and 8 studs wide is virtually the width of O scale
cars and locos. Obviously our figs look very wide compared to O scale figs,
but, this *is* LEGO after all;-) The only knock I have is that, compared to O
scale wheels, LEGO wheels are bigger. And compared to O scale gauge, LEGO
gauge is wider. So nothing is perfect- except 8wides;-)
-John
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> Mike Poindexter
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