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(...) Wheels wise, sure. But unless we know how the pivots are designed, maybe not. (for example if I had kitted out my articulated design and made it a 2 unit car, you wouldn't have enough parts with 3 copies to make a 5 unit car as you'd only have (...) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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In lugnet.trains, Larry Pieniazek wrote: (snip idle speculation) And that reminds me, I wonder if a 5 unit version of this car will have the same minor problem mine does (and that many TGV and Talgo models do as well)? It tends to come loose at the (...) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) Well, lessee. Each set comes with 1 pivot truck and 2 end trucks. With 2 sets, we get 2 pivots and 4 end trucks. A 3 well requires 2 pivots and 2 end trucks, and the single requires 2 end trucks. That seems to work for me. The ends require (...) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) Once more, slowly. I was talking about a 5 unit car. I agree that a 3 unit should work from 2 copies. But a 5 unit MAY or MAY NOT be buildable from 3 copies. It requires 4 center bogies, and 4 pairs of pivot connections. In 3 copies, you get 3 (...) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) Apology accepted. Just don't get it happen again. (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) Yeah it will be interesting to see how that goes. From this pic it seems the axle will only protrude about 2 plates or less into the decking, uneven tracks may well work it loose. (URL) ROSCO (19 years ago, 4-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) This is what is called pointing out that YOU were wrong, within the framework of apology. Sorry if it was a bit too subtle for you! How about this?? "You're wrong! Twice in one thread tree, no less!" (some snippage) (...) Ya, that pretty much (...) (19 years ago, 4-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) Might not have occurred to you that I was kidding; perhaps a bit too subtle. Sorry for any confusion on your end:-) JOHN (19 years ago, 4-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) Nice try there, J2... Well played, in fact, but no. You lose. (19 years ago, 4-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) No, I think his move was a good one. The classic "I know I made a mistake, but through word play I will make it seem like you are the one with the mistake" You just didn't get the joke. ~Kevoh what's this thread even about? some new train? (19 years ago, 4-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) Stick to that line of thought, Kevoh... it might even work for you, over with the spacers. (19 years ago, 4-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) Actually, Kevoh nailed it. You've been had. JOHN (19 years ago, 4-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) Ah yes, the blind leading the blind. You two make quite the pair. Charming, really. Now run along. The grownups have important stuff to talk about. :-) (19 years ago, 4-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) Hmmm, just maybe I'm clever enough to hang out in CSF......nah! :-) JOHN (19 years ago, 4-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) Ummm guys, if you're gonna keep going down this thread, you might wanna take it to o-t.fun or somewhere - I think it's been way off topic for trains for quite a while now... ROSCO (19 years ago, 4-May-05, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.off-topic.fun, FTX)
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(...) I was wondering if you could substitute an axle pin for that 2-stud axle, to get a little more grip, but it looks like the plates above are two 2x4 technic plates in a T-arrangement. So, there's no way the pin could click in place. As it's (...) (19 years ago, 4-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) Long time readers may recall my repeated ranting against using stacked technic plates for the receivers of the pin on bogie plates. Same issue here, in my view. Apparently the design may possibly have room for improvement. Having the trucks (...) (19 years ago, 4-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) technic (...) What is a better approach? Can you provide a link? -- Bryan "Larry Pieniazek" <larry.(mylastname)@...e.DOT.com> wrote in message news:IFyz9B.1sDD@lugnet.com... (...) seems the (...) (URL) >> (URL) (...) axle, to (...) click in (...) (19 years ago, 4-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) Only use one plate, and leave the second (upper) layer hollow so the pin can move up and down vertically and also move a bit out of the vertical axis. This helps with track conformance when the track is uneven. Note that if you use LEGO's (...) (19 years ago, 4-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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Ah. The single plate approach is what I use as well for my custom cars. On first read, I thought you are advocating not using Technic plates at all. And I was trying to figure out what else could possibly be used (besides wagon plates.) My mistake. (...) (19 years ago, 4-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) whew! (...) Na, I like them. (...) One other thing I have toyed with is using a 1x2 technic brick, sideways. There is just enough of a cut in shoulder there that the pin doesn't bind the way it does in two plates. However it doesn't allow that (...) (19 years ago, 4-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) <Shameless Self-Plug> I'm doing the same thing with my newest under-construction diesel: (URL) This image is a bit outdated although it gives you an idea why I did so. I may/may not put pics of the updated version. It's all classified at the (...) (19 years ago, 4-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) I can tell you that that probably is the best approach, especially when dealing with this sort of train car. My 5 well Huskey Stack: (URL) is a bear to set up, because I have to find the couplings blindly (2x2 turntables). Since it's been (...) (19 years ago, 4-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) I used this part to atach a 9v train motor to a train baseplate, with the motor centered on the wire hole. I wanted the motor closer to the center for a My Train steam engine. Mat (19 years ago, 4-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) I have used both 2x2 and 4x4 turntables to attach bogies. The 2x2 allows for a good amount of movement from the vertical, but is a pig to re-attach the bogies if they come off. The 4x4 allows very little such movement, but as the MOC in (...) (19 years ago, 4-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) Random thought: Has anyone tried using Bionicle-style ball-and-socket joints as bogie attachments? My guess is that they would have enough friction to keep the stock from tilting over yet have the articulation to handle track unevenness as (...) (19 years ago, 4-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) [snip] (...) But it is prototypical, isn't it :?) Chris (19 years ago, 5-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) Oh, very much so! Even steam locomotive drivers (in most US prototypes I'm aware of) are held in place by gravity, much less individual freight car trucks. But they have a bit more weight to work with. Most model railroad models don't use this (...) (19 years ago, 5-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) Of course for a 5 long unit car, having the trucks integral would make for a pretty unwieldy model... Frank (19 years ago, 6-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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