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| | | (...) Been there, seen that, built that. Or some such. But anyway, yeah, with the new style geared motors it works fine, although I still use a worm gear. However, it only seems to work if all three motors are on at the same time. Otherwise the (...) (25 years ago, 4-Oct-99, to lugnet.technic)
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| | | | | Re: New angled beam —Fredrik Glöckner
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| | | | (...) It does? I actually thought it had the big wheels, like the ones on 8459. Wow, in that case, I just may get one 8446 anyway, as the wheels are probably not that annoying as I originally thought! :-) (...) Personally, I'm not a fan of the (...) (25 years ago, 4-Oct-99, to lugnet.technic)
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| | | | | | Re: New angled beam —Johannes Keukelaar
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| | | | (...) Nope. They're smaller than the ones on the 8459, but bigger than the ones on the, say, 8414. Also, the whatchamacallums, the thingies inside the tires look pretty cool. (...) Yes, there do seem to be a lot of those. Wasn't, erm, (damn, lugnet (...) (25 years ago, 5-Oct-99, to lugnet.technic)
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| | | | | | Re: New angled beam —Jonathan Wilson
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| | | | | (...) Is it the largest set ever? or is 5571 larger? -- Jonathan Wilson wilsonj@xoommail.com (URL) (25 years ago, 5-Oct-99, to lugnet.technic)
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| | | | | | | Re: New angled beam —Fredrik Glöckner
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| | | | | | (...) 5571 is by far larger than 8448. (Judging by the number of parts included, obviously.) Fredrik (25 years ago, 5-Oct-99, to lugnet.technic)
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| | | | | | | | Re: New angled beam —Johannes Keukelaar
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| | | | | | | (...) Well, yes. However, you'll note that I said _Technic_ set. According to (URL) largest sets overall are: 5571 with 1743 pieces, 8448 with 1408 pieces, 9280 (Giant LEGO Dacta Basic Set) with 1401 pieces 8480 with 1366 pieces, 8880 with 1343 (...) (25 years ago, 5-Oct-99, to lugnet.technic)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: New angled beam —Fredrik Glöckner
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| | | | | | | | (...) Of course! It was Jon Wilson who introduced the 5571 Model Team set. (...) Certainly. However I still had a good time assembling the 5571 Black Cat. It is very well designed in my opinion, with a lot of "clever" design solutions which gave me (...) (25 years ago, 5-Oct-99, to lugnet.technic)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: New angled beam —Johannes Keukelaar
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| | | | | | | | (...) I'll admit under pressure that I've actually considered buying a 5571. I found it once in a shop in some other city that I rarely come to for about $100, which seemed like a good deal to me. Of course, luck being what it is, I didn't have any (...) (25 years ago, 6-Oct-99, to lugnet.technic)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: New angled beam —Fredrik Glöckner
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| | | | | | | | (...) The problem is that you cannot drive the differential directly with a 24t crown gear perpendicular to the diff. So to overcome this problem, Reinhard Beneke filed off a part of the central "bushing" in the crown gear. Without this (...) (25 years ago, 6-Oct-99, to lugnet.technic)
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| | | | | | | | Re: New angled beam —Jonathan Wilson
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| | | | | | | (...) So 5571 is still the largest set (in part count terms) ever made by TLG? -- Jonathan Wilson wilsonj@xoommail.com (URL) (25 years ago, 6-Oct-99, to lugnet.technic)
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| | | | | | | | Re: New angled beam —Ian Sinclair
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| | | | | | (...) Fredrik, can you tell us which is larger by weight? Isn't the amount of ABS in a set a better indication of the cost and size of a set? <ICS> (25 years ago, 7-Oct-99, to lugnet.technic)
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| | | | | | | | Re: New angled beam —Fredrik Glöckner
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| | | | | | (...) Sorry, I have no idea about that. While I have the 5571, I haven't even held a 8448 box in my hands. Hey, I haven't even _seen_ a box in a shop yet! BTW, while we are talking about the new Technic sets this year: I've noticed this really odd (...) (25 years ago, 7-Oct-99, to lugnet.technic)
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| | | | | | | | New silly axle —Gregor Benedikt Rochow
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| | | | | | | (...) It's 5.5 studs long. 4 studs of crossaxle, 1/2 stud (minus the width of the collar?) wide crossaxle-diameter round axle, a larger-diameter collar (as on the stud end of a 1/2-peg), and another stud length of axle. The 3 in 8448 simply fill the (...) (25 years ago, 7-Oct-99, to lugnet.technic)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: New silly axle —Fredrik Glöckner
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| | | | | | | | (...) Ah, if it has a length of 5.5 studs, then I can see the use for it. I've often had the need for an n.5 stud lendth axle, and by matching the 5.5 axle with an axle extender and another axle, it may serve this purpose. Sounds useful enough for (...) (25 years ago, 8-Oct-99, to lugnet.technic)
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| | | | | | | | Re: New angled beam —Johannes Keukelaar
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| | | | | | | (...) There are a couple of them in 8446, too. And yes, I've wondered about the purpose, too. In 8446 it's used, among other things, with a beveled gear on the collar end; this prevents the beveled gear from sliding up the axle. (...) Johannes. (25 years ago, 8-Oct-99, to lugnet.technic)
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| | | | | | | | Re: New angled beam —Huw Millington
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| | | | | | (...) This piece first appeared in last year's ZNAP sets, in white. The collar was necessary to prevent the axle being pulled through the hole when used for wheels and I guess was designed that way to prevent the need for a bushing. I think it (...) (25 years ago, 8-Oct-99, to lugnet.technic)
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| | | | | | Re: New angled beam —Fredrik Glöckner
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| | | | (...) So we have as much as three sizes of balloon tyres? Aw, all these different Technic wheel! They make my mind boggle. (...) The rims, you mean? I'm not really a fan of the use of "chrome" wheels. The 1998 sets had chrome wheels all around (...) (25 years ago, 5-Oct-99, to lugnet.technic)
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| | | | | | Re: New angled beam —Johannes Keukelaar
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| | | | (...) Well, lots of modern cars have metallic looking plastic rimcaps (?), so they're not too far off. (...) time. :) Ben's car also looks damn stylish, and it's an interesting construction. Of course I've never actually driven one of these cars (...) (25 years ago, 6-Oct-99, to lugnet.technic)
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| | | | | | Re: New angled beam —Jonathan Wilson
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| | | | (...) Are you talking about the so called "alloy" wheels? -- Jonathan Wilson wilsonj@xoommail.com (URL) (25 years ago, 6-Oct-99, to lugnet.technic)
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| | | | | | Re: New angled beam —Johannes Keukelaar
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| | | | (...) Yeah, I was talking about the ones used in, say, 8446 and 8462. Even if I've never seen exact duplicates of those on real cars, I have seen things that are similar enough that I think they're fairly realistic. Fredrik Glöckner felt they were (...) (25 years ago, 7-Oct-99, to lugnet.technic)
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| | | | | | general rambling (was: New angled beam) —Gregor Benedikt Rochow
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| | | | | (...) Well, the few cars that do have rims like that (with very few towtrucks among them) look cheesy, too. As an example, try the 2nd, 3rd, and last pictures on this page: (URL) with the semi-fitting 8880 rubber, those rims are a good imitation of (...) (25 years ago, 7-Oct-99, to lugnet.technic)
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| | | | | | | Re: general rambling (was: New angled beam) —Fredrik Glöckner
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| | | | | | (...) I haven't seen the suspension setup of the 8448, but can it be that the shock absorber is closer to that chassis up front than rear? When using the 8880 setup, I've found this to be a problem. If you put the shock absorbers too close to the (...) (25 years ago, 7-Oct-99, to lugnet.technic)
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| | | | | | Re: New angled beam —Fredrik Glöckner
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| | | | (...) Well, yes. And they're a tad bit overdone, in my opinion. The 1998 low profile wheels, as in 8428 and 8462, look pretty good as motorcycle wheels, but for a car, they look quite odd, I think. But as you say, they try to look like alloy wheels, (...) (25 years ago, 7-Oct-99, to lugnet.technic)
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