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    Re: Lando minifig picutre HERE —David Laswell
   (...) The NBA situation is easy to figure out on the fact that they include not only the first black minifigs, but also the first white ones. If people complained that there weren't any black minifigs in the regular sets, you could finally point to (...) (21 years ago, 10-Aug-03, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.general, FTX)
   
        Re: Lando minifig picutre HERE —Tim Romine
   (...) Excellent idea (I wish they had done this, in fact), but I don't think the problem really revealed itself until people started begging for a "black" Lando fig. Luke and most of the main characters had already been released by then, so there (...) (21 years ago, 11-Aug-03, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.general)
   
        Re: Lando minifig picutre HERE —Bruce Schlickbernd
     (...) It's important to understand that the "race-card" was played a long time ago. A bunch of pale danes sat around a room and decided what primary color would work best as a "flesh" tone. They looked at each other and the choice was ethno-centric. (...) (21 years ago, 11-Aug-03, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.general)
    
         Re: Lando minifig picutre HERE —Tim Romine
      (...) I disagree with your assumptions. When LEGO first made any attempt at Lego "people", they had very few colors to choose from. Yellow was probably the best looking one available at the time. Perhaps I'm wrong, but I just don't believe there was (...) (21 years ago, 11-Aug-03, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.general)
     
          Re: Lando minifig picutre HERE —Richie Dulin
       (...) However, we do have the clear example of (URL) set 215> as skin colour differentiating 'race'; and this set dates back to 1977 - not too long after yellow skin was established. Adieu Richie Dulin (2 URLs) Port Brique Somewhere in the South (...) (21 years ago, 11-Aug-03, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.general, FTX)
      
           Re: Lando minifig picutre HERE —Dave Johann
       (...) Well, that's true IF you believe that Lego's race card is played across all lines and all themes. From what I remember, they've always been adamant about the race card only pertaining to minifigs and only fictional ones at that. Personally, I (...) (21 years ago, 11-Aug-03, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.general, FTX)
      
           Re: Lando minifig picutre HERE —Richie Dulin
       (...) Always? I don't think so... the first we heard of that policy was at the release of the NBA figures. After all, Speilberg (if the director is Speilberg) is yellow, and Zidane (and he is Zidane) is yellow. Adieu Richie Dulin (2 URLs) Port (...) (21 years ago, 11-Aug-03, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.general, FTX)
      
           Re: Lando minifig picutre HERE —Michael Bosch
       (...) After reading the posts, perhaps the issue is no longer "Does yellow=white?" but rather, "Why aren't there more people of color in the mainstream media?" If we had a Star Wars-type franchise that was evenly distributed among White, Black, (...) (21 years ago, 11-Aug-03, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.general, FTX)
      
           Re: Lando minifig picutre HERE —Chris Phillips
        (...) Aren't you forgetting about a minor character who popped up in the first few movies by the name of Darth Vader? Personally, I think you guys have too much time on your hands. Instead of being happy that LEGO is becoming a more culturally (...) (21 years ago, 11-Aug-03, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.general, FTX)
       
            Re: Lando minifig picutre HERE —Ace Kim
        (...) vader was played by david prowse. james earl jones provided the voice over. (21 years ago, 12-Aug-03, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.general, FTX)
      
           Re: Lando minifig picutre HERE —Allister McLaren
       (...) Ever wondered why people that have been baked under the twin suns of Tattooine for generations have such fair skin? Luke and all his family should have been played by black people. Cheers, Allister (21 years ago, 12-Aug-03, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.general, FTX)
      
           Re: Lando minifig picutre HERE —Richie Dulin
       (...) Sunscreen. (...) Hmmm.. Don't forget Luke was only half Tattooini. Adieu Richie Dulin (2 URLs) Port Brique Somewhere in the South Pacifique (2 URLs) Misérable Building a safer South Pacifique (21 years ago, 12-Aug-03, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.general, FTX)
      
           Re: Lando minifig picutre HERE —Allister McLaren
       (...) Sunscreen, sand and virtually no water - there's a magical combination. (...) So he was only a half-cast eh? No wonder they didn't let him stay with his parents. Cheers, Allister (21 years ago, 12-Aug-03, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.general, FTX)
      
           Re: Lando minifig picutre HERE —Richie Dulin
       (...) And people say that the Empire was evil! Trust a democratic government to think that a parent is going to be a bad influence on a child. I wonder if they'll say "sorry"? :-) Adieu Richie Dulin (2 URLs) Port Brique Somewhere in the South (...) (21 years ago, 12-Aug-03, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.loc.au, FTX)
      
           Re: Lando minifig picutre HERE —Allister McLaren
       (...) Pah! Do-gooders never do. And they'll wonder why when he starts dressing all in black and going crazy with a lightsabre in a respectable merchant's own place of business, leaving no-one alive. Cheers, Allister (21 years ago, 12-Aug-03, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.loc.au, FTX)
     
          Re: Lando minifig picutre HERE —James Seibert
       (...) Thanks for stepping forward to take the slings and arrows. I have witnessed, as everyone else here has, Lego listening to us. We asked for a small stormtrooper pack, releasing old sets, new colors, new train cars and engines, discounts on bulk (...) (21 years ago, 11-Aug-03, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.general)  
      
           Re: Lando minifig picutre HERE —Mark de Kock
       In lugnet.starwars, James Seibert wrote: [ snip ] I have witnessed, as (...) Hear hear! Thank you Lego, for making TOYS (yes; they ARE toys!!!) that keep us occupied for so long. And don't take any notice of the "racial aware" people: I like mine (...) (21 years ago, 12-Aug-03, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.general)
     
          Re: Lando minifig picutre HERE —Bruce Schlickbernd
       (...) You assume incorrectly about what you think are my assumptions. "...what primary color would work best a "flesh" tone." I covered that. Nor did I say that there was any overt racial motivation. What I do believe is that Lego didn't think (...) (21 years ago, 11-Aug-03, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.general, FTX)
     
          Re: Lando minifig picutre HERE —Travis Kunce
       (...) minifigs... (...) Agreed 100%. This only means that the company is working to make the product even better. At brickfest, I asked during the QandA if the NBA race/plastic color was going to continue into the other themes like world city. The (...) (21 years ago, 12-Aug-03, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.general)
     
          Re: Lando minifig picutre HERE —Dave Schuler
       (...) Uh, he's at least one black man and two white men playing a white man. Dave! (21 years ago, 12-Aug-03, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.general)
     
          Re: Lando minifig picutre HERE —Steve Moldovanu
       (...) Of course he is black! Who's colour blind here? Isn't the costume black or what colour is it? If it the person inside you are talking about, he is white, duh. It wouldn't make any sense for him to be black since he is Anakin Skywalker and as (...) (21 years ago, 12-Aug-03, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.general)
      
           Re: Lando minifig picutre HERE —John Gerlach
       (...) The actor doing the voice of Darth Vader suit is (URL) James Earl Jones > JohnG, GMLTC (21 years ago, 12-Aug-03, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.general, FTX)
      
           Re: Lando minifig picutre HERE —Steve Moldovanu
       (...) Okay?? There is a guy inside the suit, right? So then why would another person be needed to do the voice? (21 years ago, 12-Aug-03, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.general, FTX)
      
           Re: Lando minifig picutre HERE —Dave Schuler
        (...) Because (URL) David Prowse> doesn't have the thunderific voice of James Earl Jones, and James Earl Jones isn't as menacingly tall as Prowse. And let's not forget the late (URL) Shaw.> But by all means, let's forget the execrable (URL) Hayden (...) (21 years ago, 12-Aug-03, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.general, FTX)
       
            Re: Lando minifig picutre HERE —Allister McLaren
        (...) if it had been james Earl Jones in the suit, he would have had to be renamed Darth Tubby. (...) Darth Wrinkly (...) Darth Whiney (...) Darth Cutesy (the most heinous of all) Cheers, Allister. (...) (21 years ago, 12-Aug-03, to lugnet.starwars, FTX)
       
            Re: Lando minifig picutre HERE —Dave Schuler
        (...) The best summation of Whiney's onscreen charisma: Anakin, as embodied by Christensen, is the kind of needlessly moody kid you might see getting punched out in a Dairy Queen parking lot. from (URL) review>. Also pretty funny, while I'm at it: (...) (21 years ago, 13-Aug-03, to lugnet.starwars, FTX)
      
           Re: Darth Vader —John Gerlach
       (...) Because James Earl Jones isn't 6'7" tall, and (URL) David Prowse> doesn't have the deep booming voice that George Lucas was looking for (listening for?) for Darth Vader... I can't believe we're even discussing this. JohnG, GMLTC (21 years ago, 12-Aug-03, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.general, FTX)
     
          Re: Lando minifig picutre HERE —David Eaton
      (...) Isn't he a white man and a black man playing a white man in a black suit? :) DaveE (snipped .general) (21 years ago, 12-Aug-03, to lugnet.starwars)
    
         Re: Lando minifig picutre HERE —David Laswell
     (...) Actually, I remember hearing that they did polls to see what the public thought would be more appropriate. The public chose "yellow" (or at least "pre-existing brick color") over "flesh-tones". I'll grant you that at the time they probably (...) (21 years ago, 11-Aug-03, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.general)
   
        Re: Lando minifig picutre HERE —David Laswell
   (...) I'm really beginning to wish they had as well. I wouldn't be surprised if _they_ are wishing they'd done this. And if they aren't yet, they probably will be in a year or two, especially if that set ever hits retail store shelves. (...) That (...) (21 years ago, 11-Aug-03, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.general)
 

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