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Re: The Chosen one and the balance of the force.
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Fri, 31 May 2002 04:27:45 GMT
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In lugnet.starwars, Aaron West writes:
> In lugnet.starwars, Mike Petrucelli writes:
> > In lugnet.starwars, Eric Joslin writes:
> > > In lugnet.starwars, Mike Petrucelli writes:
> > >
> > > > Episode 2 was quite clear on this. (Or so I assumed) The dark side is being
> > > > used more than the light side even with all of the Jedi.
> > >
> > > That's odd. I remember a scene where someone claimed the shroud of the Dark
> > > Side had fallen, and someone else saying that the Dark Side was clouding the
> > > Jedi's abilities to see the future, but I didn't hear anyone say anything • about
> > > which side of the Force was being used more.
> > >
> > > What scene was that revealed in?
> > >
> > > eric
> >
> > They stated that the force was out of balance in favor of the Dark Side.
> > Something along the lines of Anakin is the one who will bring the force back
> > into balance.
>
> There was no specific wording to the effect that the Dark Side was being
> used more than the Light Side. The statement was that the Dark Side has
> come out of hiding and disrupts Light Side Force use the same way one might
> talk about opposing magnetic poles. In the absence of Darkness, the Light
> can see the clear future of Order. In the presence of Darkness, Chaos
> distorts the future, bending it to the will of the Dark Side. That is why
> the future is difficult to see, more posibilities are present and the Light
> Side is no longer undisputed in the Force. Seems that both Light & Dark
> manipulate the Galaxy anf life in general, but for different purposes. To
> Dark, life is cheap and disposable. To Light, life must be protected and
> nurtured.
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> >
> > We know that the light and dark sides are equal in terms of power thanks to
> > yoda in Empire strikes back. So logically if the balance is in favor of the
> > Dark side it is being used more.
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> How can it be logical that the Dark Side is being used more if we only have
> two known Sith, and 820 Jedi after the Arena Battle??? If the Jedi are
> divided, one by one they can be killed like Qui Gon (one Sith/One Jedi). If
> they are united, killing them becomes more difficult (One Sith + Millions of
> Battle Droids/200 Jedi). You can't say with any logic that the Dark Side is
> in greater use.
Sidious/Palpatine was so powerful that he could stand in front of Yoda and not
be detected. Anakin, who was the most powerful Jedi, became the Sith
apprentice and not the master.
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> The ONLY way I see the Dark Side to be more used would be IF the Cloners had
> gotten the DNA sample they originally felt would be better than Jango's
> (they wanted a Jedi host DNA) and IF that meant that Darth Maul were to have
> been the original 10 year ago intended DNA host. That could not happen
> after Obi Wan cut him and then knocked him down a generator core to be
> incinerated (snicker!). But, man! Then Palpatine would have had total
> control without needing to go through to Episode 3, and Anakin would be a
> useless plot element and the world would be ashes from the rioting fans over
> the discontiuity of Lucas's Star Wars.
> >
> > -Mike Petrucelli (gosh this really is a silly thing to be debating :-D )
>
> Yes. Yes it is :)
> But silly is as silly does, and we are grown ups with minds focused on
> fantasy and toys. That seems silly to all the people who don't "get it",
> yesno??
It is really fun getting differing opinions.
>
> Cool thing about Star Wars is that soooo much is left unsaid that you can
> discuss it forever without ever destroying the myth. Lucas will reveal
> answers to most of the questions in due time.
> Truth is that we don't know very much about the Balance Prophesy as Lucas
> "knows" it or who it will really apply to. The Jedi elders know of it but
> have never described it and they could just be transfering their hope onto
> Anakin. Not saying he isn't.
>
> I think Balance is Luke because this:
> 1. Animals represent raw life of the Universe.
> 2. The Force is in all things uniting them. The Force is life.
> 3. Luke is strong in the Force. Padme is pregers with Luke in Episode 3.
> He is part of the Force in his being alive.
> 4. The Dark Side destroys the Force through careless killing and destruction.
> 5. The Dark Side states that Luke must join the Dark Side or die (hence
> diminish his Force from the Universe).
> 6. As Luke's strength in the Force Grows he opposes the Dark Side with more
> Force Power and Control.
> 7. As Luke's strength in the Force Grows, creatures aligned with the Dark
> Side (destroyers of life) try and eat/kill him (hence diminish his Force
> from the Universe).
> 8. If everybody trying to kill you AND the beasts of the Universe trying to
> kill you doesn't make you somehow feel perversly important and part of some
> ancient Balance of the Force prophesy, well just go boil yer bottom with
> carrots and onions.
>
> That's my peace, and I've said it.
> :)
> -Aaron-
See I read that George Lucas stated quite clearly that Luke was not the Chosen
one Anakin is. Of course I spent an hour searching starwars.com and could not
find the relavant article. <sigh> Basicly my whole explanation is based on
that knowlege and observations from the films. The Luke as Chosen one seems
contradicted by the fact that Anakin kills the Emperor. As for the argument
that Anakin would not have done so were it not for Luke; Luke would not have
been born if Anakin had not followed the path that led him to become the
Emperors servant in the first place.
-Mike Petrucelli
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