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| | | Given all the attention regarding Year 2000 compliance, see: (URL) was wondering if there will be any problem using the RCX and the computer software from Lego when we roll over to the year 2000. If anyone knows, please let me know. Thanks! (25 years ago, 31-Dec-98, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | Re: is Mindstorm/RCX Y2K Compliant??? —Russell Nelson
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| | | | | David Forrest writes: > Given all the attention regarding Year 2000 compliance, > see: > (URL) > > I was wondering if there will be any problem using the RCX and > the computer software from Lego when we roll over to the > year 2000. Did you *tell* (...) (25 years ago, 31-Dec-98, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | | Re: is Mindstorm/RCX Y2K Compliant??? —Jasper Janssen
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| | | | | | (...) It's a microcontroller. Therefore it has an internal clock. Therefore it can suffer from Y2K, if it hasn't been removed. (...) No it's not. We're not even close to getting everything away. How do you think we will fare if the world's (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jan-99, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | | | Off topic [was Re: is Mindstorm/RCX Y2K Compliant???) —Mark Tarrabain
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| | | | | | | (...) The most likely scenario is that so many people are in such a tizzy about Y2K that there will be runs on banks throughout the civilized world before the end of the year, causing total economic collapse. Ignorance, not computer bugs, are the (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jan-99, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | | | Re: is Mindstorm/RCX Y2K Compliant??? —Russell Nelson
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| | | | | | | Jasper Janssen writes: > On Thu, 31 Dec 1998 19:53:26 GMT, lego-robotics@crynwr.com (Russell > Nelson) wrote: > > >Did you *tell* it which year it was?? > > > >Then why do you think it cares?? > > It's a microcontroller. Therefore it has an internal (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jan-99, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: is Mindstorm/RCX Y2K Compliant??? —David Forrest
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| | | | | | | | | "....even when only relative time is required by the OEMs, this may often be derived from chips that keep absolute time internally. Those chips that represent absolute time using two digit dates are subject to Year-2000 failures just as with (...) (25 years ago, 20-Jan-99, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: is Mindstorm/RCX Y2K Compliant??? —Kekoa Proudfoot
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| | | | | | | | | | | (...) this is a complete crock. The H8 inside the RCX does not fall into the category of chips that "keep absolute time internally." See the H8 specs for details. In fact, this thread is a complete joke. -Kekoa (25 years ago, 20-Jan-99, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: is Mindstorm/RCX Y2K Compliant??? —Jasper Janssen
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) microcontroller in the RCX does this, or not. Jasper (25 years ago, 22-Jan-99, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: is Mindstorm/RCX Y2K Compliant??? —JR Conlin
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| | | | | | | | (...) Ohmigod! That means my dishwasher, dryer, refrigerator, microwave, toaster and egg-timer are going to crash! DAMN YOU KENMORE!! Folks, think. How does the RCX use time? It uses it as an internal clock for operations. Think of it as a (...) (25 years ago, 20-Jan-99, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | | | RE: is Mindstorm/RCX Y2K Compliant??? —Tilman Sporkert
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| | | | | | | This is getting way out of hand... (...) If it doesn't know what year it is, then it can't have a Y2K problem! And even if it would know about the year, and even if there was a Y2K bug, I don't think it would matter much. In the worst case, your (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jan-99, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | | | | RE: is Mindstorm/RCX Y2K Compliant??? —Allen Martin
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| | | | | | | | (...) bug, I (...) left (...) or (...) different (...) Well, those of us who are using the RCX for mission critical applications can't be too careful. -Allen PS: I just finished my Lego open-heart surgeon, I'll post pictures in a few days. -- Did (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jan-99, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | | | Re: is Mindstorm/RCX Y2K Compliant??? —Wes Matchett
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| | | | | | | (...) No, just because it has a microcontroller in it doesn't mean it will stop working in 2000. Russell is absolutely right. If it doesn't know what the year is (you never tell it) it doesn't know when Y2K is going to happen. There are too many (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jan-99, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | | | Re: is Mindstorm/RCX Y2K Compliant??? —Kekoa Proudfoot
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| | | | | | | (...) What do you mean by "internal clock?" You seem to indicate that the microcontroller inside the RCX somehow knows the date. It does not. The only "clock" inside the microcontroller is a counter that counts cycles. It starts at zero when you (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jan-99, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | | | Re: is Mindstorm/RCX Y2K Compliant??? —Bill Clagett
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| | | | | | | A more likey reason for a crash is that people will actually believe all these predictions that the markey will crash and try to convert everything to cash. Jasper Janssen wrote in message <36a3cf2e.46618061@l...et.com>... ... (...) ... (25 years ago, 19-Jan-99, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: is Mindstorm/RCX Y2K Compliant??? —Paul Speed
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| | | | | | | | | Actually, The way the markets have been going lately is that it is just as likely that bargain hunters will be waiting for just such an occurence so they can get some good deals. Will this be enough to offset it completely? Probably not, but I bet (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jan-99, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: is Mindstorm/RCX Y2K Compliant??? —Jasper Janssen
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| | | | | | | | (...) That's the same thing. Regardless of what exactly causes it, it'll happen. Jasper (25 years ago, 19-Jan-99, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | | | Re: is Mindstorm/RCX Y2K Compliant??? —Pete Hardie
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| | | | | | (...) Only, ONLY, if it uses date arithmetic that crosses the Y2K boundary. Your ancient PC, that has not been upgraded, will function just fine on Jan 1 2000, regardless. It may not be showing you the correct date, because of the rollover, and (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jan-99, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | Is Super Car Y2K Compliant? [was: is Mindstorm/RCX Y2K Compliant???] —Kekoa Proudfoot
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| | | | (...) Along those lines, does anybody know if the 8880 Super Car has any Y2K problems? That is one of my favorite sets, and I don't want it to break a year from now. -Kekoa (25 years ago, 1-Jan-99, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | Re: Is Super Car Y2K Compliant? [was: is Mindstorm/RCX Y2K Compliant???] —Dave Baum
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| | | | | (...) Sorry, #8880 isn't Y2K compliant. The original (non-notched) #2 axles will spontaneously combust on 2/29/00. You should upgrade all older Technic sets to use the newer notched #2 axles which are Y2K compliant. Dave (25 years ago, 1-Jan-99, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | | Is Super Car Y2K Compliant? [was: is Mindstorm/RCX Y2K Compliant???] —Tony Firshman
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| | | | | | | In article <dbaum-3112982109230...ract.com>, Dave Baum <lugnet.robotics@lugnet.com> writes (...) You got the worng date - it should be 04/01/00 (I had to think _very_ hard to get that into the US format!) (...) OK we are not serious (aren't we (8-)# (...) (25 years ago, 1-Jan-99, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | | Is Super Car Y2K Compliant? [was: is Mindstorm/RCX Y2K Compliant???] —Peter Hesketh
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| | | | | | In article <dbaum-3112982109230...ract.com>, Dave Baum <lugnet.robotics@lugnet.com> writes (...) ROFL! (25 years ago, 1-Jan-99, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Is Super Car Y2K Compliant? [was: is Mindstorm/RCX Y2K Compliant???] —Nancy Evelyn Gold
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| | | | | | Now you tell me! I was putting together my *brand new* 8880 last night. It was a very expensive present to myself that arrived via Priority Mail that morning. I was doing a roll over test and had all of my LEGO set to 1999 to verify that the 2000 (...) (25 years ago, 1-Jan-99, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | Re: Is Super Car Y2K Compliant? [was: is Mindstorm/RCX Y2K Compliant???] —Russell Nelson
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| | | | Kekoa Proudfoot writes: > Dave Forrest <davef@shmoopie.com> wrote: > >I was wondering if there will be any problem using the RCX and > >the computer software from Lego when we roll over to the > >year 2000. > > Along those lines, does anybody know (...) (25 years ago, 1-Jan-99, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | Re: Is Super Car Y2K Compliant? [was: is Mindstorm/RCX Y2K Compliant???] —Jim Moran
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| | | | Y2K ?! heck, I'd be happy to use lego mindstorms NOW in 1999. It seems I MUST have my IR tower as COM1 or COM2 (the built-in motherboard ports), either that or the software does not like my Equinox super serial card. With the IR tower on COM3 the (...) (25 years ago, 1-Jan-99, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | Re: Is Super Car Y2K Compliant? [was: is Mindstorm/RCX Y2K Compliant???] —Joe Greene
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| | | | Um. Cyberia.. I discovered to my dismay, that the Lego IR tower and software on windows is touchier about IRQ than Linux is about PnP devices. My tower will only work on Com2 because my Mouse is on COM1 (IRQ4) and my modem is COM3(IRQ4), if I (...) (25 years ago, 5-Jan-99, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | lugnet.robotics@lugnet.com (Joe Greene) said the following on the auspicious date of 99-01-05: (...) Another possibility might be to put the modem on another IRQ if it's an internal modem. I did this with one system -- put the modem and parallel (...) (25 years ago, 6-Jan-99, to lugnet.robotics)
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