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Hi, I have your 1.0/1.5 book and just got around to looking at the CD. Does the 2.0 book contain new
items? Are there pix of the Construction Techniques chapter of the book on the CD or web? Those
would be very handy for teaching a robotics class.
Dave Baum wrote:
> In article <3.0.6.32.20020616134215.007b8990@pop6.sympatico.ca>,
> lego-robotics@crynwr.com (Laura O'Grady) wrote:
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> > So now I am considering purchasing either "Dave Baum's Definitive Guide to
> > LEGO Mindstorms" to learn NQC or "Core LEGO MINDSTORMS Programming: Unleash
> > the Power of the Java Platform" by Brian Bagnall to learn JAVA. I just
> > ran a quick search and found this interesting article called
> > "Ada/Mindstorms 3.0: A Computational Environment for Introductory Robotics
> > and Programming" (found at
> > http://www.faginfamily.net/barry/Papers/IEEERA.htm). In this article the
> > author advises that NQC is difficult for the novice programmer to learn and
> > use.
> >
> > So now I am concerned about going the NQC route. Maybe I should try this
> > Ada/Mindstorms software. Any thoughts? Also what is the relationship
> > between RcxCC and NQC? Thanks.
>
> The paper you refer to cites two basic reasons why he considers NQC
> difficult for novices: poor error messages and a command line interface.
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> The first criticism is true, and probably not going to be remedied
> anytime soon. Most people get the hang of it soon enough and learn what
> to look for when the compiler yells "syntax error". To be honest, the
> couple of times that I have run NQC sessions for kids I have been
> surprised at how fast they pick it up.
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> The second criticism isn't true for Windows or Macintosh. Other people
> have stepped up and provided GUIs for NQC on those platforms. The first
> one was RcxCC, which was later renamed to BricxCC. It is the most
> popular GUI for NQC, and the one I suggest that people start with.
>
> Dave
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> p.s. And of course buy my book :)
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| (...) Consider the 2nd edition more of a "refresh" of the 1st edition rather than lots of new material. Most of the update has been with respect to RCX Code getting a lot better with 2.0. These new programs will be availble for download, so even (...) (22 years ago, 17-Jul-02, to lugnet.robotics)
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