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intro and question
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lugnet.robotics
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Sun, 16 Jun 2002 17:42:15 GMT
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Laura O'Grady <l.ogrady@/stopspam/sympatico.ca>
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Hello everyone!
I have been semi-lurking on the list for a few months, with the occasional
post. I have only recently gotten into Mindstorms and wanted to ask about
moving on to another language to program the RCX with. I have no
programming skills whatsoever so I am requesting the sage advice of the
list on which direction I should go.
I have done a bit of research and was able to find a demo version of
ROBOLAB. This version works only with a serial IR and I have the USB
version. Plus I really didn't think the interface was all that great so I
deleted it.
So now I am considering purchasing either "Dave Baum's Definitive Guide to
LEGO Mindstorms" to learn NQC or "Core LEGO MINDSTORMS Programming: Unleash
the Power of the Java Platform" by Brian Bagnall to learn JAVA. I just
ran a quick search and found this interesting article called
"Ada/Mindstorms 3.0: A Computational Environment for Introductory Robotics
and Programming" (found at
http://www.faginfamily.net/barry/Papers/IEEERA.htm). In this article the
author advises that NQC is difficult for the novice programmer to learn and
use.
So now I am concerned about going the NQC route. Maybe I should try this
Ada/Mindstorms software. Any thoughts? Also what is the relationship
between RcxCC and NQC? Thanks.
Laura
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Message has 6 Replies:
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| (...) Which is funny, because I read the webpage and it turns out you need to download 23MB of stuff and it ends up installing NQC on your system... (...) If you're a beginning programmer, I'd go with NQC for the simple reason that there are lots of (...) (22 years ago, 16-Jun-02, to lugnet.robotics)
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| Try Gordon's brick programmer. It's an interesting halfway house between Lego's graphical but rather limited offering and an actual written language like NQC. It's a free download, I just don't remember where it comes from at the moment. Maybe (...) (22 years ago, 16-Jun-02, to lugnet.robotics)
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| It's been quite a while since I've posted (dagnabbit, it's been too long since I've built any robots), but I tackled the same issues in my earlier programming days. I tackled JavaScript and NQC at the same time. I found that they were very (...) (22 years ago, 16-Jun-02, to lugnet.robotics)
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| (...) Well, without doubt the most popular programming language for RCX (apart of the original Lego software) is NQC. It's easiest to use and most commonly seen - which means there are the most people out there to help you. However, if you really (...) (22 years ago, 16-Jun-02, to lugnet.robotics)
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| (...) The paper you refer to cites two basic reasons why he considers NQC difficult for novices: poor error messages and a command line interface. The first criticism is true, and probably not going to be remedied anytime soon. Most people get the (...) (22 years ago, 17-Jun-02, to lugnet.robotics)
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| (...) Robolab is a wonderful tool for working with the RCX. I agree that the interface is unusual, but it accurately reflects the way that National Instruments (creator of LabView, the father of Robolab) views the world. They see everything as a (...) (22 years ago, 17-Jun-02, to lugnet.robotics)
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