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Re: Lego at Gerf.Org
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Date: 
Mon, 27 Sep 1999 20:17:27 GMT
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mattdm@mattdmSPAMCAKE.org
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Todd Lehman <lehman@javanet.com> wrote:
In this case, "lego" is indeed the host name, but it's _also_ part of the
domain name:  It's part of the 3rd-level domain name.  The popular media


It could be. But it could also be a host name. I appeal to the FOLDOC:
<URL:http://nightflight.com/cgi-bin/foldoc.cgi?query=domain>

  "domain" is most commonly used to refer to a group of computers whose
  hostnames share a common suffix, the domain name. The last component of
  this is the top-level domain.

What people are talking about is the "Fully Qualified Domain Name"
<URL:http://nightflight.com/cgi-bin/foldoc.cgi?fully+qualified+domain+name>

  The full name of a system, consisting of its local hostname and its domain
  name.

which is different from just plain "domain name".


I have a web site at http://quotes-r-us.org/. "quotes-r-us" is in this case
actually being used as a host name. It also happens to be a second-level
domain name. Technically, I'm using it incorrectly, because I you're not
ever supposed to have an entry serve double-duty. (It's common practice
these days though, and makes a lot of sense in the New Internet Order.) A
fun example of a terrible misuse is <URL:http://ai/>. "ai" in this case is
both a hostname and a top level domain. But in the case of foo in foo.co.uk,
unless there are hosts under foo, and if it has a host entry, it's probably
_just_ a hostname and not a domain name at all.


It's also interesting to note that the term "Internet Address" is defined in
the FOLDOC as a number -- and it's hard to get L-E-G-O into either
dotted-decimal or hex notation. :)


I'm not saying all of this as a sneaky way to get around TLG's intentions.
Just the opposite, actually. I think that for someone who understands a few
basics of the DNS system and of URLs in general, it's clear that having
"lego" in either your hostname or in your filename doesn't imply official
sponsorship or in any other way cause confusion. ("Causing confusion" being
a technical term. If people are confused because they're idiots, that's
hardly _my_ fault. *large grin*)




TLG shut down a site named  legowww.homepages.com  in 1995.

That's too bad. Doesn't fit with their own stated policy.

--
Matthew Miller                      --->                  mattdm@mattdm.org
Quotes 'R' Us                       --->             http://quotes-r-us.org/



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  Re: Lego at Gerf.Org
 
In lugnet.publish, Matthew Miller writes: <snipped debate about technicalities of internet addresses> (...) You're (the plural you) picking nits. If you re-read the specific entry in the fairplay document(1) it clearly states: "The LEGO Trademark (...) (25 years ago, 27-Sep-99, to lugnet.publish)
  Re: Lego at Gerf.Org
 
(...) Maybe what they mean is simply 'lego' appearing anywhere between the initial '(URL) and the first standalone '/', i.e. (URL) (25 years ago, 27-Sep-99, to lugnet.publish)

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(...) In this case, "lego" is indeed the host name, but it's _also_ part of the domain name: It's part of the 3rd-level domain name. The popular media has been propagating the misperception that "domain name" equals "second level domain name," but (...) (25 years ago, 27-Sep-99, to lugnet.publish, lugnet.general)

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