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Subject: 
Lobsters and Frogs debate...
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Date: 
Mon, 31 Mar 2003 20:16:47 GMT
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> 
> But why should he dash out?  It'll bee just like you running away if not.

Dash out- here is why. i know that i dont stand a chance in a ship-to-ship
broadside-to-braodside action with Port Briques ships. so, i dash out to sea
with them on my tail, leave em behind, poke my head out ever once and a while,
taking pot shots at them, and dissapear again. breaking up Port Briques fleet,
demoralizing the crews, etc. its a perfect plan.

> > > 
> > > If you've got vessels that small, what do intend raiding Port Brique for?
> > > You're not going to carry off much in bathtubs with sails! ;-)
> > 
> > You continue to forget the efficiency of the british. I can pull off a lot of
> > things-and your huge shore batteries cant even hit me in the dark!
> > You also forget my personal fighting strategys..one of em: dont lock into
> > battle directly.
> 
> But it's pretty hard to get into a harbor without going through some guard
> ships.  And twenty marines in an unfilimiar armed city against
> sixty-something marines wouldn't fare well.

getting into the harbour? why do you think i have several officers trained in
speaking french fluently? because, i can lure guard boats beside me-and kill or
disable their crews without a noise.
> 
> > > 
> > > > twenty, at the most, marines against your Grande Army which has-how many
> > > > soldeirs? But, your huge army can just blunder here and there, smashing and
> > > > destroying, attemting to get me. where as my light marines can spread out,
> > > > skirmishing and slowly wearing your army out.
> > > 
> > > Those red coats are awfully easy to spot in the jungle....
> > 
> > And blue coats are not?
> 
> Good point.  :) • Thanks.
> 
> > they may be easy to spot, but i can
> > spread out, as i stated. try to smoke out a guy here, a guy there-with a large
> > force in a collum. you also seem to forget my little three-pounder freinds,
> > which can be moved with shore partys! :)
> 
> What about shore batteries?  A small dispersed force will not do much
> against an army.

A small dispersed force is better against an army then another army. again, i
take into acount the demoralizing effect. and shore batteries- that does not
really matter. what is the chances they are going to hit a boat or two in the
dead of night?
> 
> > > 
> > > The English inciting the French to revolution! Hah!
> > 
> > Yeah? well, your civillions are tired of being constantly killed and forced
> > into service at Boneys will.
> 
> And what did the British impressment gangs do differently?

You have a good point here. but, i can trust my crews, and they are well
trained, as all british seamen are.
and, after a long amount at sea, a good deal of British seamen didnt mind the
hardship. from what i know, just about all French seamen would desert if land
was in sight.
> 
> > > 
> > > > and, as the cause of my fleet, i will rip, shoot and burn all Tricolors
> > > > i find.
> > > 
> > > For every tricolour you burn, another two will be raised in it's place! Vive
> > > la Port Brique!!
> > 
> > long live port brick? pah! i can dash in and out of your villages, smashing
> > things at will. and your huge army, trying to attack in force, will be
> > helpless! Ha-ha!
> 
> Villages?  Isn't this on some island in the pacific?

i dont even know. it is not in my orders to smash port brique yet, and frankly,
i deal with one thing at a time.
> 
> An army can disperse, too.  And 68 versus 20 people is not an even match.
> > > 
> > > > (strange, my national colors are red, white and blue....)
> > > Well, there are only so many colours to choose from (and so many dyes).
> > 
> > Commodore Lord Sir Hornblocks colors are Red and blue.
> 
> Mercenary Captain J. Blockford's colors are black and red.  :)

Cool.
> 
> > > 
> > > > Commodore Lord Sir Horatio Hornblock.
> > > 
> > > 'Commodore Lord Sir'? Is that possible? In any case, a 'Commodore Lord Sir'
> > > deserves a decent ship (you know, three masts, lots of cannon, decent
> > > freeboard)! ;-)
> > 
> > Why do i even WANT a huge ship? if i hade a huge ship, id lose my fighting
> > prowess. you realise, big ships are stuck with battleing other big ships.
> > little ships are better.
> 
> Not neccisaraly.  Frigates are just as speedy as smaller ships, yet pack a
> much bigger punch.  Don't forget range and strength of weapons.  And larger
> ships are much harder to sink then little flimsy cutters.

ill keep my cutters, but your points here about frigates are the exact reasons
why i want one, and not some huge blundering three-decker.
> 
> I don't see very many ship-of-the-lines here on Lugnet.  :) • i can see why.
> 
> This is an interresting little debate.  Keep it up, as long as it stays civil.

ill try to keep it at that.
> 
> Coming soon... John Blockford's mercenary force
> http://jhkruer.com/piratet.jpg

Cant wait
> 
> To aid the highest bidder, or higher thinker.  Money is the biggest
> motivator.  :)
> 
> -JHK

Ill see what prize money i can get from the Azores. maby ill hire you! :)

HH



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  Re: Lobsters and Frogs debate...
 
Gentlemen, I've been watching this debate develop for a while... forgive my lengthy and belated commentary. (...) Ahh, dangerous words, those: "perfect plan"... a change in wind or bad luck on a reef and its bad business for the British. Though if (...) (24 years ago, 1-Apr-03, to lugnet.pirates)

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  Re: My Ships
 
(...) But why should he dash out? It'll bee just like you running away if not. (...) But it's pretty hard to get into a harbor without going through some guard ships. And twenty marines in an unfilimiar armed city against sixty-something marines (...) (24 years ago, 31-Mar-03, to lugnet.pirates)

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