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    Re: Upcoming Greenberg shows. —Jonathan Dallas
   I really hate responding to my own posts. Makes me feel like I'm talking to myself. :-) Well I think I fixed all the problems I had with my initial design in this new revision: (URL) just need Tom and Eric to approve the changes to their models. (...) (22 years ago, 3-Sep-02, to lugnet.org.us.nelug)
   
        Re: Upcoming Greenberg shows. —Eric Kingsley
   (...) Here is my second try. This one keeps both Tom and my MOC's in tact, has decent (although not great) siding space. It has 3 loops but can easily run as 2 loops if desired. The outer loop is still pretty friendly to Shaun's 8 wides. I don't (...) (22 years ago, 3-Sep-02, to lugnet.org.us.nelug)
   
        Re: Upcoming Greenberg shows. —Thomas Duggan
     I like this one the best. I think it spreads everything out a bit more, so that one end isnt overcrowded while the other is bare. Plus It's a minimum of tile moving for me! What is the status of the gorge? I know Chris was going to redesign it. Has (...) (22 years ago, 3-Sep-02, to lugnet.org.us.nelug)
    
         Re: Upcoming Greenberg shows. —Eric Kingsley
      (...) Those were 2 of my goals actually. There are some areas for improvement though. I have 2 areas where curved track goes over a road plate (one of our unwriten no-no's). Also when I thought about it, The roads going through the amusement park (...) (22 years ago, 3-Sep-02, to lugnet.org.us.nelug)
    
         Re: Upcoming Greenberg shows. —Eric Kingsley
     (...) OK Here is my try number 3. (URL) are the highlights. 1. I have used a Model Railroading convention here. The roads don't have to connect on the layout, you just imagine that they connect somewhere off the layout. This gives us more room to (...) (22 years ago, 3-Sep-02, to lugnet.org.us.nelug)
    
         Re: Upcoming Greenberg shows. —Joe Comeau
      I really like this layout. I also don't have an issue with larger fair grounds :) One thing I wanted to throw out there to see if people are still interested in doing it, is the idea of a subway. Like La Gorge, this would be a sunken table, BUT it (...) (22 years ago, 4-Sep-02, to lugnet.org.us.nelug)
     
          Re: Upcoming Greenberg shows. —Eric Kingsley
      (...) I agree that if done right it would be really cool. Plus it would add yet another running train. I think your concern over visibility is valid though. One nice thing is we now have plenty of sewer/subway rats thanks to Harry Potter to add (...) (22 years ago, 4-Sep-02, to lugnet.org.us.nelug)
    
         Re: Upcoming Greenberg shows. —Jonathan Dallas
     (...) I agree. I like the openness and the fact that there is 112 sections of siding track. I don't think I can compete with that, but I'll try. :-) The only real issue I have is that the third loop is a little small. Will we actually be able to run (...) (22 years ago, 4-Sep-02, to lugnet.org.us.nelug)
    
         Re: Upcoming Greenberg shows. —Eric Kingsley
      (...) Granted it can't be a long train but we could have a small "branch line" train running on it with 5-7 cars. This loop actually isn't much shorter than the inner loop of our first layout. (...) I do understand people like to connect roads but (...) (22 years ago, 4-Sep-02, to lugnet.org.us.nelug)
    
         Re: Upcoming Greenberg shows. —Eric Kingsley
     (...) OK this is my try #4 and possibly my last try until we talk about it more at a meeting. This is actually nearly the same as #3 in terms of MOC location but I made some modifications to the sidings. (URL) is the parts list. (URL) havn't been to (...) (22 years ago, 5-Sep-02, to lugnet.org.us.nelug)
    
         Re: Upcoming Greenberg shows. —Eric Kingsley
     (...) I inadvertently included a reversing loop. It won't affect any MOC's but I will need to move or eliminate one or two switches. No big deal but I didn't want anyone calling me on it before I owned up to my boo-boo. Eric (...) (22 years ago, 5-Sep-02, to lugnet.org.us.nelug)
   
        Re: Upcoming Greenberg shows. —Jonathan Dallas
   (...) Well here is another design and I'll be working on a variant of this one tonight. (URL) design is more rectangular, but still isn't a large box. Plus the roads all connect. Highlights: - Tom's layout is virtually extact to the way he his it (...) (22 years ago, 4-Sep-02, to lugnet.org.us.nelug)
   
        Re: Upcoming Greenberg shows. —Eric Kingsley
   (...) First we loose one entire table with this design. I would really like to maximize our space as much as possible. Second, as you point out, there is a lack of siding space in general. Third, and least important, is there isn't the option of two (...) (22 years ago, 4-Sep-02, to lugnet.org.us.nelug)
   
        Re: Upcoming Greenberg shows. —Jonathan Dallas
   (...) I agree that we should maximize our space as much as possible, but I'm not sure that adding an extra table will do that. If I add an extra table then I have to put an extra hole in the middle of the layout. The hole then becomes constricting (...) (22 years ago, 4-Sep-02, to lugnet.org.us.nelug)
 

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