 | | [rtlToronto] rtlToronto17 Drag Racing Tentative Ruleset —Calum Tsang
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| | | Hey folks, I was too busy putting potato chips and marshmallows in the fire and watching them burn to have a good discussion with Chris about this, but here it is: (URL) etc requested. Calum (20 years ago, 20-Sep-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | Re: [rtlToronto] rtlToronto17 Drag Racing Tentative Ruleset —David Koudys
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| | | | | (...) I honestly thought that the comeptitions woudl be head-to-head--two 'bots going at the same time, kinda like ye ol' Kub Kar competitions... I think that'd be more exciting. Dave K (20 years ago, 20-Sep-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | | | Re: [rtlToronto] rtlToronto17 Drag Racing Tentative Ruleset —Greg Hyland
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| | | | | | | (...) Yeah! -Greg (writer of pointless short posts that don't really add anything to the conversation, but just point him out as a follower) (20 years ago, 20-Sep-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: [rtlToronto] rtlToronto17 Drag Racing Tentative Ruleset —Rob Antonishen
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| | | | | | | | (...) So the two options are 1) timed runs, best time (or best average x times) wins or 2) head to head, first one across the finish line wins and advances. The problems (or advantage, depending on your perspective) with head-to-head is getting a (...) (20 years ago, 20-Sep-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | | | | | | RE: [rtlToronto] rtlToronto17 Drag Racing Tentative Ruleset —Ralph Hempel
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| | | | | | | | | One alternative is to send a command with the lego remote. Then both bots would get the same message at more or less the same time. But then Rob Stehlik couldn't use a battery box to drive his robot. Ralph (...) (20 years ago, 20-Sep-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: [rtlToronto] rtlToronto17 Drag Racing Tentative Ruleset —Rob Antonishen
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| | | | | | | | Anyone have a couple of the 5206 speed computers? (URL) might be fun to add in some how... -Rob. (20 years ago, 20-Sep-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: [rtlToronto] rtlToronto17 Drag Racing Tentative Ruleset —Calum Tsang
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| | | | | | | | (...) I have a group 5206 which has never been opened. It was going to be a prize some day, last of the prizes. Calum (20 years ago, 22-Sep-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | | | Re: [rtlToronto] rtlToronto17 Drag Racing Tentative Ruleset —Steve Hassenplug
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| | | | | | (...) cool. two robots running directly towards each other. That does sound fun. Sumo, at full speed. (20 years ago, 20-Sep-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | | | | Re: [rtlToronto] rtlToronto17 Drag Racing Tentative Ruleset —Brian Davis
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| | | | | | (...) Visions of robotic chicken dance in my head. Or, to further spice things up, we could have RCX races "for pinks" <grin>... (20 years ago, 21-Sep-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | RE: [rtlToronto] rtlToronto17 Drag Racing Tentative Ruleset —Ralph Hempel
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| | | | Two questions come to mind.... 1. Does the bot have to turn around at the end of the tables before coming back? Or can it simply reverse and come back? If the reverse isn't challenging enough, then adding the turn around requirement might add some (...) (20 years ago, 25-Sep-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | | Re: [rtlToronto] rtlToronto17 Drag Racing Tentative Ruleset —Calum Tsang
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| | | | (...) No, it doesn't have to physically turn around. I guess I shouldn't imply that. (...) Guys? Calum (20 years ago, 27-Sep-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | | Re: [rtlToronto] rtlToronto17 Drag Racing Tentative Ruleset —David Koudys
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| | | | | (...) I say as long as it's over the line and doesn't fall off the table, that's good 'nuff Dave (20 years ago, 27-Sep-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | | Re: [rtlToronto] rtlToronto17 Drag Racing Tentative Ruleset —Derek Raycraft
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| | | | (...) I would think this should not be allowed. If it is it changes the nature of the contest. What's the point in in having the lines across the table. The idea was you had to race down and stop within a certain distance, not race down and stop (...) (20 years ago, 27-Sep-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | | Re: [rtlToronto] rtlToronto17 Drag Racing Tentative Ruleset —Steve Hassenplug
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| | | | | (...) What's wrong with allowing a purely mechanical solution? It would be MUCH easier to build an RCX controlled robot, but if someone can make one that's completely mechanical, wouldn't that be cool to see? Isn't that the point? (20 years ago, 27-Sep-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | | | Re: [rtlToronto] rtlToronto17 Drag Racing Tentative Ruleset —Derek Raycraft
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| | | | | | (...) Nothing. I'm saying it makes it too easy. If I find the time to do this contest, I'm going to attempt a mechanical solution no mater what the rule about hanging over the edge of the table is. But allowing edge detection instead of looking for (...) (20 years ago, 27-Sep-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | | | | Re: [rtlToronto] rtlToronto17 Drag Racing Tentative Ruleset —John Guerquin
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| | | | | | | (...) I was thinking about this too.... but what if we stipulate that the robot MUST use the black electrical tape finish line for detection, and NOT the table edge? What if the robot is going so fast when it crosses the finish line that some part (...) (20 years ago, 27-Sep-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: [rtlToronto] rtlToronto17 Drag Racing Tentative Ruleset —Derek Raycraft
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| | | | | | | | (...) Based on the original concept, yes it would be a disqualification. I don't think it right to stipulate that you must detect the line. As I understand the game, the idea is to run down the track as fast as possible but be able to stop in the (...) (20 years ago, 27-Sep-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | | | | Re: [rtlToronto] rtlToronto17 Drag Racing Tentative Ruleset —Steve Hassenplug
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| | | | | | | (...) If it's too easy, why would you bother attempting a mechanical solution? I suspect you're actually trying to say it will be too easy to win the event, if you can build a mechanical solution. I would suggest most people will not be able to (...) (20 years ago, 27-Sep-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | | | | Re: [rtlToronto] rtlToronto17 Drag Racing Tentative Ruleset —David Koudys
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| | | | | | (...) Here's the thing-- We have two tables, end to end, with a starting and finish line at the same end--the 'bot must reach the other side and then come back. If someone can come up with a mechanical mechanism that can go to the other end of hte (...) (20 years ago, 27-Sep-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | | | | Re: [rtlToronto] rtlToronto17 Drag Racing Tentative Ruleset —Rob Antonishen
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| | | | | | | (...) ...but the rules state "Over the course of the day, robots will be run on the track individually"... Which is it? -Rob A. (20 years ago, 27-Sep-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | | | | Re: [rtlToronto] rtlToronto17 Drag Racing Tentative Ruleset —Derek Raycraft
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| | | | | | (...) The line across the table is what you use to detect that you need to stop. I'm only arguing my point from the perspective of the original game. We've already changed that by saying we have to return to the start line. If we wish to change the (...) (20 years ago, 27-Sep-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | | | | Re: [rtlToronto] rtlToronto17 Drag Racing Tentative Ruleset —David Koudys
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| | | | | | In lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, Derek Raycraft wrote: <snip> (...) Then the question gets asked--how does the 'bot know when it's near the side edge if no part of the 'bot is allowed to be over the edge of the table at any time? I like the idea of (...) (20 years ago, 27-Sep-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | | | | Re: [rtlToronto] rtlToronto17 Drag Racing Tentative Ruleset —Derek Raycraft
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| | | | | | (...) The original game was described to me as: A line is placed a given distance from a wall. Two robots drag race towards the wall. The first robot to cross the line and not touch the wall wins. This is the basic contest our contest is based on. (...) (20 years ago, 27-Sep-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | | RE: [rtlToronto] rtlToronto17 Drag Racing Tentative Ruleset —Ralph Hempel
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| | | | (...) I agree Derek. I just raised the question to avoid the possibility of a simple mechanical solution, as you have suggested :-) At one point, I thought about the problem of driving straight and detecting when the bot is just about to go over the (...) (20 years ago, 27-Sep-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | | Re: [rtlToronto] rtlToronto17 Drag Racing Tentative Ruleset —Iain Hendry
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| | | | Okay, whoah, flood of posts about the drag racing. My thoughts - - I thought we were going to have a finish line, a fixed, known distance, from a fowl line (in our case, the end of the table), with an unknown distance from the fowl line to the start (...) (20 years ago, 27-Sep-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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