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UML +/-
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Date: 
Mon, 25 Jun 2001 13:35:37 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.fun, Shiri Dori writes:
In lugnet.off-topic.fun, Larry Pieniazek writes:
<snip>
Is that cool or what?

Very. Definitely.

BTW, Larry, speaking of geeks of some sort, you're a system architect,
right? My dad is writing a book (1) about system modeling, and I'm actually
his editor (nobody else gives him comments anywhere NEAR as deep-level as I
do (2)). So I'm actually becoming quite the geek in this stuff. Do you use
UML? Do you like it? What are its best sides, and biggest flaws, in your

I work in the real world and I am usually at the leading edge where we are
trying to get the basic concepts down. So UML is overly precise for what I
typically need to convey. I am usually at the lines and boxes level and
showing a mishmash of logical and physical arch. UML doesn't work for that
(wasn't designed to).

I also find the syntax (what sort of lines and circles to draw) hard to
remember. I prefer 1, m, 0:1, etc notation as it's unambiguous

UML's biggest plus feature is that it's now becoming a standard in tools.
When you are at the OOD or late OOA stage it's great. Especially if the
modeling tool you are using supports it well. (which Rational Rose does)

But again, even when I am leading an analysis (rather than an enterprise
arch) the syntax trips me up. I tend to whiteboard stuff into existance and
play fast and loose with syntax. Let the designers refine that, I am at
50,000 feet with no time for worrying about the tiny details.

Funny, I had this same conversation with an architect at a rival firm on
Friday... he tended to agree.



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In lugnet.off-topic.geek, Larry Pieniazek writes: <snip> Rereading that it sounds like I don't like/approve of UML. That would be incorrect. That it has been adopted as a standard instead of several rival notations and methodologies is a *huge( win (...) (23 years ago, 26-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)

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In lugnet.off-topic.fun, Larry Pieniazek writes: <snip> (...) Very. Definitely. BTW, Larry, speaking of geeks of some sort, you're a system architect, right? My dad is writing a book (1) about system modeling, and I'm actually his editor (nobody (...) (23 years ago, 25-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, lugnet.off-topic.geek)

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