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On Sat, 1 Apr 2000 07:13:58 GMT "Todd Lehman" <lehman@javanet.com> wrote concerning 'Re: GUI LUGNET streaming news client in Java (Was: Pseudo-streaming live news (was: Re: Monitor Page))': (...) hmmm... good point - though doesn't the login cgi end (...) (25 years ago, 3-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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Larry: (...) Not in general, but by directing readers to interesting material. I wouldn't want people to _waste_ bandwidth, but I find that when there is something good on the web, then as many people as possible (of those who are interested) should (...) (25 years ago, 3-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) Surely you don't mean this to be true in general, right? Else you are OK with spam, since, after all, it's just using up bandwidth, right? (...) But what if the publisher wants that particular resource to be presented in the fashion that the (...) (25 years ago, 3-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | Re: how do I set "follow-ups to" in Outlook Express 5.0 ?
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(...) right, this being off-topic.geek, i'm gonna have to nitpick: not free, but "included in the cost of something I already have". (25 years ago, 3-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | how do I set "follow-ups to" in Outlook Express 5.0 ?
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G'Day I know it's late , for me anyway, but how do I set the "follow-ups to" field using Outlook Express 5.0. (yeah yeah I know , but its free , it mostly works , and its already installed ) Cheers Oliver (25 years ago, 3-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | Re: Outlook Express 5.0 Time?
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Matthew, (...) Anyway, (...) marks? It does not appear so, according to what I have seen. Scott S. -- Scott E. Sanburn Systems Administrator-Affiliated Engineers -> (URL) Page -> (URL) Soon: The Sanburn Systems Company (25 years ago, 1-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | Re: GUI LUGNET streaming news client in Java (Was: Pseudo-streaming live news (was: Re: Monitor Page))
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(...) Nope, that would put sensitive data into the httpd logs! Gonna hafta pass your cookie the regular way, not part of GET. In addition to your cookie, here's what you wanna send via HTTP POST to /news/rate.cgi, basically: (...) (25 years ago, 1-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek) !
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| | Re: GUI LUGNET streaming news client in Java (Was: Pseudo-streaming live news (was: Re: Monitor Page))
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(...) The ratings are actually meta-data separate from the actual messages. (The message headers and bodies are constant but the ratings change over time.) What I need to figure out before serving a rating stream is how efficiently updates could be (...) (25 years ago, 1-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | Re: Outlook Express 5.0 Time?
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(...) Does it generate clean outgoing mail, or does it do nasty things to " marks? (25 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | Re: so-called "deep-linking" ruled okay
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(...) Yet for things like Quotes 'R' Us, it makes a lot of sense. Why reload the entire page when all you want is a new quote? (25 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek) !
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(...) Less shamelessly now, btw -- the page maintainer has made a more obvious credit to Q'R'U, and I'm okay with that if he is. (See: (URL)). (25 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) Assuming they didn't ask your permission first, I'd say grabbing your quotes is kinda rude. Except for the existence of your uncopyright page, which pretty much allows anyone to do what they want. But still, professional sites should have (...) (25 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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Dan: (...) If they make the pages with links to the rest of the site, then that shouldn't be the least bit difficult. And I can't see how a "cover page" can generate more revenue than a page inside the site. (...) If you use Pause DB images alone, (...) (25 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) while true - at least then they get to generate revenue, or attract to the rest of the site. If you use pause DB pics in your ebay auction (for instance), you are abuseing the fact that the pics are up there. (...) people should read what you (...) (25 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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Dan: (...) The HTML construct with the FRAMESET and FRAME elements is a serious mistake that Netscape forced unto W3C even though it doesn't fit with the design of the web. (...) I don't feel the least bit bad about using peoples bandwidth, and I (...) (25 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) how so? should I put in every page in every frameset a check to make sure I'm still within it? I'm not sure I understand what you mean here... (...) what about using up their bandwidth? (...) I'm not saying it's never ok - in a lot of cases, (...) (25 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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To All, I have been playing around with Microsoft Outlook 5.0, and I have to say, it seems to work better than Netscape Communicator 4.7 so far. Anyway, all the incoming mail and outgoing mail seems to be an hour off. Is there a way to change it? My (...) (25 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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Dan: (...) I disagree! (and I think we will have to leave it at that) (...) That is a part of the error in the FRAME construction. (...) Then I will consider to drop the "probably". (...) The question is when it is abuse... Todd has the images on (...) (25 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) I think a web SITE is supposed to be able to stand alone... A page is just a part of it - it could be only one frame out of a complete frameset... (...) I think Matt was refering to the quote at the bottom, shamelessly stolen from (...) (25 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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Matthew: (...) A web page is supposed to be able to stand alone (of cause with all its links). If it can't, the site designer has misunderstood his medium (IMNSHO). (...) Probably illegal, but since the author doesn't seem to pretend that the (...) (25 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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