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		Re: Sports scores redux( Re: For Sean...
(...) I just carried on with the thread... :-) (...) Ouch! That hurt! :-P But yes, you have a point. I suppose o-t.d isn't the proper place for them... it's not a topic that "fits in" with the rest. (...) Who told you I don't participate in soccer? (...) (21 years ago, 24-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Durned Telemarketers!
(...) I believe our governor (Illinois) recently vetoed such a bill because it 'wasn't strong enough' and allowed too many exemptions. I think these state-run do not call lists (with penalties) are a good thing (and are long overdue). BUT, I hope (...) (22 years ago, 28-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Property Rights are the foundation of freedom
(...) And so there goes the myth presented by the anti-capitalists, these big fat cat tycoons light their cigars with $100 bills while their employees all slave away in sweat shops. Poor economic conditions in Iraq are the fault of the west? This is (...) (21 years ago, 30-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Durned Telemarketers!
(...) My state (Colorado) just passed a "no call list" (URL) where your telephone number is entered into a database. Telemarketers are required to buy updates (I think quarterly) of the database and are fined for each number that is called on the (...) (22 years ago, 27-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Durned Telemarketers!
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Tim Courtney writes: <snip> (...) Agreed on all points, but I'll take whatever I can get to begin with. I can only hope that political and non-profit phone solicitations will be brought under the same restrictions at a (...) (22 years ago, 4-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: TJ acknowledged a Creator in DoI (was: Re: Those stupid liberal judges are at it again!
John: You are looking at past history and past rhetoric with blinders on. Part of The Enlightenment project was to break with the "divine right of kings." That's why there is language of that type floating around. I am not saying that there weren't (...) (22 years ago, 11-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Those stupid liberal judges are at it again!
(...) My point is that it is okay to protect all matters of freedom of religious expression up and until people fly planes into buildings... k, that was a little far--my personal philosophy has always been that anyone can believe what they want (...) (22 years ago, 10-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Those stupid liberal judges are at it again!
(...) I suppose that depends on what level of socialism you are refering to. Virtually every nation on the planet practices some form of socialism, so I'd have to say that your claim that socialism working is counterfactual is...well, (...) (22 years ago, 12-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: TJ acknowledged a Creator in DoI (was: Re: Those stupid liberal judges are at it again!
(...) I am only responding to this one part because after reading Larry's reply it occurred to me that this part is intended as a kind of snare -- frankly, a rather lame one at that. I am tolerant of others' views unconditionally -- that is to say (...) (22 years ago, 15-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Averages and Capitalism (was Re: Those stupid liberal judges are at it again!)
(...) That's not entirely accurate, but even if it was, it's not a good metric. The average standard of living in the US is significantly higher than, say, China. I don't tend to agree with Larry on political ideals, but as a goverment moves closer (...) (22 years ago, 13-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Those stupid liberal judges are at it again!
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler writes: <snip> in any case you are ONCE AGAIN missing the point. If the State (...) While I agree with you in your point about keeping religion out of state run affairs... I have the freedom to believe what I (...) (22 years ago, 12-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Those stupid liberal judges are at it again!
(...) I don't really have to: it's you that needs to prove that virtually every single country on the planet is a failure. _ :-O (Edvard Munch) - I said that every country practices socialism to some degree or another. You are stating that socialism (...) (22 years ago, 13-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Averages and Capitalism (was Re: Those stupid liberal judges are at it again!)
(...) Sorry, in what way is redistribution "fair"? (...) This is the same old argument and the refutation is simple. NOT everyone has to do good or be charitable. Merely enough people to take care of the problem. We have empirical evidence that is (...) (22 years ago, 13-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: TJ acknowledged a Creator in DoI (was: Re: Those stupid liberal judges are at it again!
(...) I don't like to see John stating his own opinions as facts either, esp. when much of what he has to say is contrary to the facts as understood and accepted by the rest of us. The Constitution trumps all other laws. Even the preamble is not (...) (22 years ago, 13-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Tax relief?
(...) I am not sure that they are at all related, but I'd rather pursue programs and measures that might actually increase security instead of merely depriving citizens of their constitutional rights or engaging in a frivolous war. "Thousands of (...) (21 years ago, 19-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Prey for Salivation!
(URL) what you like about the Libertarian party, but they won't endorse spitters! Kidding aside, I applaud their censure of this boor as a means of demonstrating that The Party of Principle does not endorse personal assault as a means of political (...) (22 years ago, 16-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Those stupid liberal judges are at it again!
(...) Quoteth Dave K (quoting dictionary): goon: a thug hired to commit acts of violence or intimidation (usually with a gun) The last time the NRA won some sort of whatever, there was numerous newsclips of Heston holding up a gun, saying 'outta my (...) (22 years ago, 19-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Those stupid liberal judges are at it again!
(...) Actually, German Americans were interred also, here's one quick link: (URL) here's one about Italian internment: (URL) the way, these were the 1st links Google showed for +german +internment and +italian +internment I haven't read these sites (...) (22 years ago, 20-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Those stupid liberal judges are at it again!
(...) You're right. One should try and change things from within the system. This is why those who don't agree with the current government and truly care about our nation are trying to work within the system. The purpose of enabling the free (...) (22 years ago, 20-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Those stupid liberal judges are at it again!
(...) I'll tell you what... if you want to explain a process, explain how it is that the US has two parties in power which are more similar than they are different, and which do everything they can to ensure that no other party or set of ideas can (...) (22 years ago, 20-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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