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Re: Those stupid liberal judges are at it again!
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Thu, 12 Sep 2002 04:29:54 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, William R. Ward writes:
"Larry Pieniazek" <lpieniazek@mercator.com> writes:

In lugnet.off-topic.debate, William R. Ward writes:

I have no problem with people believing in whatever religion they
want.  However, when the State, through the public school system,
offers *financial* support for an institution of religion, then that
crosses the line.  The Bible Club should be permitted to meet but
should not have access to student body money.  The Court was wrong
here, IMNSHO.

Socialism is thought by some to be a religion (1), are you OK if we ban the
teaching of socialism in public schools? Let's stick to things we know are
true, after all...
1 - it requires faith in miracles and has no predictive power

I don't see what relevance this has to anything I said.

OK. But you're a socialist, right? Since belief that a socialist system can
actually work is counterfactual, holding such a belief is a kind of religion
since it requires faith.

I suppose that depends on what level of socialism you are refering to.
Virtually every nation on the planet practices some form of socialism, so
I'd have to say that your claim that socialism working is counterfactual
is...well, counterfactual.

Okay, yes, I've defined soviet-style communism as akin to religion here
before (complete with gods, demi-gods and demons cast into the void), but
the one political movement in the U.S. that I'd say seems closest to being
gripped by a fevor that seems religious in nature is...well, you tell me
which party is the most uncompromising in its approach to its sacred
scriptures....uhhh, professed doctrines?  And proud of it! (ooooooo, what a
trap!) :-)

Bruce
(juuuuuuuuuuuust teasing!)



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(...) Practices... Amen, brother. They all **practice** it, but none of them have gotten it to WORK. (...) Don't confuse using with working. I'm happy with my claim, socialism doesn't **work**. (...) Um... I dunno. :-) What party sacrifices (...) (22 years ago, 12-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Those stupid liberal judges are at it again!
 
(...) OK. But you're a socialist, right? Since belief that a socialist system can actually work is counterfactual, holding such a belief is a kind of religion since it requires faith. (...) Separation of Church and State. A permanent mural (contrast (...) (22 years ago, 12-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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