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		Re: Buses & Beggers [Re: Vote against/for...]
(...) Okay, but so what? Statistically, one group will have to make more than the other group-- what is the point? The point is that there are haves and havenots-- why introduce race into the equation? How does that ultimately matter? And what (...) (22 years ago, 12-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Vote against/for...
(...) Not the believe like us or die variety. That may be been en vogue 100s of years ago for Christianity, but Christianity grew out of those dark times, and continues to change with time (although the basic message is the same). Islam has no (...) (22 years ago, 12-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Vote against/for...
(...) Actually, the bomb was dropped to scare the Japanese, thus ending the war. I don't see that as terrorism, though - terrorism implies a much more prolonged chain of events than a couple weeks in August '45. Terrorism is ETA in Spain, IRA in (...) (22 years ago, 12-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Vote against/for...
(...) A judicial branch that is beholden to the son of an ex-president doesn't seem like much of a check and balance, but in theory.... (...) I thought the X-Files was cancelled? (...) Wrong Texan (not that I'd count Mr. Preppy as a real Texan). (...) (22 years ago, 11-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: "Peace" can be dangerous (was: Re: Peruvian Indians [Re: ..)
(...) But you're also saying, in essence, that two is just as bad as ten. And that's simply not so. Two is a big improvement over ten. And it's reasonable to think that maybe whatever tactics can move the number from ten to two might also move it (...) (22 years ago, 16-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: "Peace" can be dangerous (was: Re: Peruvian Indians [Re: ..)
(...) My point is that any amount of terrorism is unacceptable. So the fact that the number of homicide bombers reduces from say 10 a month to 2 a month is irrelevant-- any amount is too many. (...) What I am trying to point out is that as long (...) (22 years ago, 16-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Vote against/for...
(...) Let's keep it in perspective; there has been no "removal of any reference" to the Towers. Last night on Spin City I saw a clear shot of them, and the syndicated Simpsons recently showed the episode in which the family treks to NYC and Homer (...) (22 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: "Peace" can be dangerous (was: Re: Peruvian Indians [Re: ..)
(...) I was making a distinction of intent. The IDF does not target the civilian population as Hamas does. Yes, innocents are killed, but not intentionally. I find the distinction crucial. But if you want to make comparisons, answer this: why do (...) (22 years ago, 16-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Vote against/for...
(...) That's very nice. You should realize that such immature ad hominems only serve to reflect the complete lack of character of the user. (...) The estimated loss due to 9-11 was $95,000,000,000 USD. What do you suppose the cost (in terms of $$$, (...) (22 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: A word to the international community... (Re: Vote against/for...)
(...) hating America. Unless you modify your complaint, you are explicitly equating Bush with America, which is insane nationalistic idolatry. And, frankly, that sort of kneejerk follow-the-leader thinking, not to mention your anti-world diatribes (...) (22 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		A word to the international community... (Re: Vote against/for...)
(...) Although John may speak for the soon-to-be-installed right-wing overzealous militaristic hegemonic self-righteous theocracy, his wildly nationalistic statements should not be construed as anything like mainstream American thought, but they can (...) (22 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: A word to the international community... (Re: Vote against/for...)
(...) Your demagoguery and paranoia aside, let's take a wait-and-see attitude rather than engage in pointless inflammatory rhetoeric. I am just so tired of Americans apologizing for the US-- it is mad that I would have anything for which to be sorry (...) (22 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Amnesty International: Israel involved in "grave breaches" of international law
(...) It is a little jarring - letting Sharon [a war criminal] enforce "justice" is crazy. I don't think the current Israeli government can be trusted to act on human rights abuses. I’m not alone: Amnesty calls for arrest of Israelis for war (...) (22 years ago, 5-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Shutting things down--(was-Re: Is the Palestinian Cause Dead? The Latest Terror Attacks)
(...) There was a scene from 'Sports Night'... A group of religious zealots called in a bomb threat to the local radio station because they didn't like the morning show DJ doing an imitation of Jesus. The reason they didn't like the imitation? The (...) (22 years ago, 8-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Is the Palestinian Cause Dead? The Latest Terror Attacks
(...) I would agree that there probably was "nautiness" on the part of the (some) Israelis. I have no doubt that there was "nautiness" on the part of the (some) Palestinians. I certainly agree that the (many) Palestinians are inclined to believe (...) (22 years ago, 6-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: My one minute recap of the recent debate wreck...
(...) Since 70% of the world's fresh water is locked up as ice in Antarctica, I presume the 40% is refering to liquid water. Just break me off a chunk the size of Connecticut and let's make a really big Margarita... Bruce ("Let's blow this 'berg," (...) (22 years ago, 20-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Not the Green party...
(...) This is a real interesting question. It's crystal clear to me that the parties should have a lot of say over how their name gets used. On the other hand, perhaps the parties should not "own" positions on the ballot. So, let's say a Republican (...) (22 years ago, 11-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: K, in even simpler terms, for those of us who hate seeing death and killings and such...
(...) A combination of a need to conform and political apathy. Scott A (22 years ago, 8-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: K, in even simpler terms, for those of us who hate seeing death and killings and such...
(...) If true, I would view that as a rather apathetic outlook. ;) (...) Indeed, the need to conform is strong. ;) (...) I prefer to let the UN vote on it. After all, your servicemen are old enough to decide what is right or wrong. (...) People who (...) (22 years ago, 8-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: LEGO Star Wars 2003
Chris & All, (...) Because it did not belong in Star Wars. If this thread continues, I hope it would be in it's appropriate group, because of the political / historical aspect to it. If people want tot alk about this, feel free to do so here, but (...) (22 years ago, 7-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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