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Re: Buses & Beggers [Re: Vote against/for...]
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Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:08:52 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys writes:
> Not going to speak for Scott, but I took his meaning as:
> If we do a poll, we will find out that the *majority* of black people make a
> lot less money and live in disadvantagious areas of the US than the
> *majority* of white people.
Okay, but so what? Statistically, one group will *have* to make more than the
other group-- what is the point? The point is that there are haves and
havenots-- why introduce race into the equation? How does that ultimately
matter? And what conclusions are you trying to make to by asserting it?
> Since you, John, do not think it's a 'colour-of-skin' issue at all (a la
> "Racist"), then Scott is asking you (tongue in cheek) what that reason may
> be--maybe it's a genetic disposition.
Well, then, it wasn't funny. Because race is a genetic disposition:
> DWB's happen. Pulling someone over just *because* they're black, or
> suspecting someone for a crime just *because* of the colour of his skin is
> racist.
But is it racist if that driver is male, black, between the ages 18-25? Now
you are starting to talk about profiling...
> Pointing out that DWB's , wrongful arrests due to skin colour, or
> the disparity b/w income and housing of black people and white people, is
> *not* racist, and is, in fact, pointing out the *inherent* racism in the
> system. How much more clear can it be said?
If I'm playing sandlot basketball and I pick a team that has 3 whites and 2
blacks, am I being inherently racist?
My point is that there can be other explanations as to why such disparities
exist that are apart from any "inherent racism". The proof is that there are
many blacks and other races doing very well in this country, and there are many
whites that aren't. Looking to race to somehow explain these disparities
serves no purpose (though might be statistically interesting to you, not me).
I'm just so tired of hearing people lumped together by race (the black
community, the Hispanic community) These terms mean *nothing*; they are bereft
of meaning and describe nothing of substance. They serve no purpose except
political gain and exploitation.
-John
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| (...) How did blacks get into the "less money" hole? Are you honestly trying to sweep slavery, racism, Jim Crow laws, blocking of access to education, discrimination in the workplace under the rug? If you pretend that this didn't happen, then you (...) (22 years ago, 12-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Not going to speak for Scott, but I took his meaning as: If we do a poll, we will find out that the *majority* of black people make a lot less money and live in disadvantagious areas of the US than the *majority* of white people. Since you, (...) (22 years ago, 12-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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