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		Re: The Missing Terrorist Link?
(...) <snip> (...) "Perle has been a leading, albeit somewhat free lance, voice in the Bush administration for a war with Iraq. As a campaign adviser, he suggested in 2000 to a Senate committee that Bush would oust Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein if he (...) (22 years ago, 28-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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"First Stop, Iraq" (URL) Saddam. We're taking him out." Those were the words of President George W. Bush, who had poked his head into the office of National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice. It was March 2002, and Rice was meeting with three U.S. (...) (22 years ago, 29-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Break Out the Cristal (trickle-down economics explained with champagne!)
(...) I don't think I would have been that harsh. After Larry's last post, I had decided to drop it as well, because neither of us are going to move, so why pursue the thread? As it stands, I respectfully object to Larry's assertion that we can (...) (22 years ago, 28-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Break Out the Cristal (trickle-down economics explained with champagne!)
(...) ...as a %age of GDP? (...) The UN is about bringing nations together; that cannot be achieved by excluding developing countries. (...) Sure, lets rank them by 1. "least countries bombed since 1945". 2. "least times the veto was used" 3. (...) (22 years ago, 28-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Break Out the Cristal (trickle-down economics explained with champagne!)
(...) Then you are going to have to explain what you mean by "we are all equal nations". (...) Thank you. (...) Straw man-- I never used the UN to justify anything. Contrare, I think that the UN is a sham! I used the example of the UN's decision (...) (22 years ago, 26-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Just Teasing, I Have No Intention of Debating Any of This...
(...) This subthread got a start when someone said "if you don't like it (that you inherited a contract), vote with your feet". Perfectly valid statement. What I was trying to point out was that it is not a perfect solution. Life isn't perfect, of (...) (22 years ago, 28-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Dune, Foundation, and other critics of Empire
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Wayne McCaul writes: <snip> (...) ACC's short story about an officer chasing a runaway on an asteroid--brilliant. THe runaway is running around on the asteroid, and the officer is in a space ship--Clark goes into how the (...) (22 years ago, 28-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Break Out the Cristal (trickle-down economics explained with champagne!)
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes: <snip> (...) But here's where you're missing the point, Larry--If we use your very own rationale, I'd say that Canada should have 5 votes to your 1, because we're so much better than you--we have (...) (22 years ago, 28-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Dune, Foundation, and other critics of Empire
(...) I loved Asimov’s Foundation ‘trilogy’ due to its rather dated version of the future – atomic powered watches come to mind. I had a former-colleague who collected all his books just for the covers [many of them had little relevance to the (...) (22 years ago, 27-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Looking for Motives
Look, this is just counterproductive. There is no on-point discussion being advanced. If you were looking at my resume you would absolutely assume that my past record had at least some relationship to the trajectory of my present and future career (...) (22 years ago, 23-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Break Out the Cristal (trickle-down economics explained with champagne!)
(...) Because I am a red-blooded american boy; living, breathing, working, and striving for all that is great and good for my world; and because I am committed to a larger project which takes the downturns and the upswings with a grain of salt; (...) (22 years ago, 26-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Looking for Motives
This isn't reasonable discussion of the issues. All of this "conspiracy" nonsense is just that. Please show me where I claimed the work of some hidden conspiracy? I gave a cite from CNN, for crying out loud. All I did was then analyze the (...) (22 years ago, 23-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: best way to minimise civilian casualties?
(...) Baghdad with the hope of bringing the Republican Guard to action in the open, where it can be devastated by the overwhelming firepower of the American armoured units and air force." Or we could just lure them all out into the desert and drop a (...) (22 years ago, 28-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: The Missing Terrorist Link?
(...) Get over yourself -- there is no "I told you so" until this fiasco is over and the contracts have been settled. I was dismayed at the analysis run on BBC's pages today where the basic assertion was that Iraq was a long term investment and was (...) (22 years ago, 28-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: The French Have Gone Too Far
(...) 1. Most warmongers = imperialistic @$$holes (...) 2. White House says no connection, John ::yawn: (...) 3. Was he disarming or gearing up for war? What chance did we give him? Given the context today, I can tell you what I would have been (...) (22 years ago, 28-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Parental Responsibilites (was: Megan's Law, and its implications)
(...) I guess we're getting into the nitty gritty details of what is owed. I don't think I'm looking for absolutes (in fact I think I want to avoid them). I think part of what I'm looking for is how do we judge (I think we have to have some basis (...) (22 years ago, 27-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: The French Have Gone Too Far
(...) People are idiots--have been, probably always will be--lashing out at stuff that hurts their cause. There are radicals that should really get their heads examined. If they think they're helping their POV by doing stupid, idiotic and, quite (...) (22 years ago, 28-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Dune, Foundation, and other critics of Empire
(...) So as I pick up my very well-read copy of the Foundation Trilogy, and looking at the ripped cover and bike grease (I was biking home from school one day and it slipped outta my hand and right into the bike chain!), I fondly recalled all the (...) (22 years ago, 27-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Outrageous Iraqi Geneva Convention Violation
(...) That's the good part--the "imho" Perhaps I should have stated that "All of the following are my ideals that I try to adhere to, and my reasons for doing so." But I don't think that covers your objection. So to stop the flogging of the dead (...) (22 years ago, 25-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Just Teasing, I Have No Intention of Debating Any of This...
(...) So, obviously you think it is untrue, but why? It seems like virtually all the evidence points the way I'm suggesting. And for the record, I don't think that he's as dumb as he seems...he almost couldn't be! But even if he were, it is still (...) (22 years ago, 25-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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