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		Re: Latter Day Saints (was:Re: God and the Devil and forgiveness (was Re: POV-RAY orange color))
<37D3BBC5.77DE038A@eclipse.net> <FHow2F.3yM@lugnet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit (...) I didn't find that. but I did find THIS: Back on 12/10/98 I said: (...) While we were talking about stealing, (...) (25 years ago, 7-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Latter Day Saints (was:Re: God and the Devil and forgiveness (was Re: POV-RAY orange color))
<37D3BBC5.77DE038A@eclipse.net> <FHow2F.3yM@lugnet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm skipping most of this for a more detailed comment later, perhaps... (...) but THIS is so outrageous that I have (...) (25 years ago, 7-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Dead Men Tell No Tales
The unreported cost of war: at least 827 American wounded (URL) US military casualties from the occupation of Iraq have been more than twice the number most Americans have been led to believe because of an extraordinarily high number of accidents, (...) (21 years ago, 5-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Saving the Xtian Church From Itself
Fears of split follow gay bishop vote (URL) The historic vote has sent shock waves through the church and the wider Anglican community, with the Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams saying Wednesday that the church faced "difficult days" while (...) (21 years ago, 6-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Saving the Xtian Church From Itself
(...) I can't answer you question directly because I have not made an exhaustive survey on the subject from the perspective of non-English Xtian faiths, but I will answer it this way... You can use books like Strong's Concordance to get at a closer (...) (21 years ago, 7-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Tony Martin case: You can't {make up} better criticism of Liberals!
(...) Why? Do all smokers eventually do 'hard drugs'? Do all people who view erotica end up being Charles Manson? Justify please. (...) And this is civilized? Jaywalking warrants the death penalty? (...) And if someone steals my cloak, I'll offer (...) (21 years ago, 25-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: The War That Never Ends
(...) I don't have any cites, but my mom is sure wondering if there's any connection between here peacefull war protests and the fact that everytime she goes though airport security she gets the "full treatment". I'm personally not convinced, but (...) (21 years ago, 4-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Sticking my gun where it doesn't belong...
(...) Exactly - for emphasis. It's all Hollywood. Common sense abandoned for dynamics. (...) Splitting hairs here, but I was taught (back to the respect and responsibility thing) that all guns are dangerous. Always treat it as if it's loaded, don't (...) (21 years ago, 28-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: The War That Never Ends
(...) And very closely related to this story... US anti-war activists hit by secret airport ban (URL) After more than a year of complaints by some US anti-war activists that they were being unfairly targeted by airport security, Washington has (...) (21 years ago, 3-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Sticking my gun where it doesn't belong...
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd wrote: <snip> (...) "All right you primitive screwheads, listen up! See this? This is my BOOM STICK!!!!" My favourite dialogue from any movie ever! The quotes from that movie... "It's a trick (...) (21 years ago, 29-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: The War That Never Ends
(...) Well, there you have it. There's nothing like an open mind, and yours is nothing like it! But to answer anyway: In both Iraq and Afganistan, terrorists were allowed safe haven to train and plot their attacks. By eliminating the governments who (...) (21 years ago, 2-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Newsbits: (was Re: The War etc)
Conflict 'may have driven Muslims into arms of al-Qa'ida' (URL) The war to topple Saddam Hussein may have damaged the campaign against international terrorism by driving Muslims into the arms of al-Qa'ida, an all-party committee of MPs said (...) (21 years ago, 1-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Tony Martin case: You can't {make up} better criticism of Liberals!
(...) This is an incredibly important consideration that the pro-Death Penalty and lock-em-up-and-throw...e-key-away people tend to totally ignore. There are a few things that do justify indefinite incarceration, but very few in my mind, for just (...) (21 years ago, 1-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: The Crux of the Matter?
(...) I’ve decided that John’s (URL) that “Drunk Drivers” should be executed has some merit after all. ;) Scott A (21 years ago, 31-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Libertarianism again.
Larry Pieniazek <lar@voyager.net> wrote (...) So tell me, how do we stop them taking what is ours by brute force, or simply degrading our environment by dying in it? Even if you don't have welfare you need some way to stop homeless people coming to (...) (25 years ago, 4-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: The War That Never Ends
(...) What is your definition of "imperfect safety"? As long as other people are killed by terrorists and I can still have my freedom, I can live with imperfect safety. Well what if you were in one of those towers? Tell me how you can live through (...) (21 years ago, 1-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: The War That Never Ends
(...) Why not just go after the Saudis first? And why not do it economically instead of via unwarranted war? Arrange our affairs to break our dependence on foreign oil and voila.(1) (Oil is too valuable to burn in cars, it needs to be saved to (...) (21 years ago, 31-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Tony Martin case: You can't {make up} better criticism of Liberals!
(...) The problem with drug usage is not the usage "per se", it's what addicts do once they waste all their money. Tipically, the pattern for drug usage is: you have a job and do drugs, then you lose your job (and income) due to the addiction, then (...) (21 years ago, 29-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Tony Martin case: You can't {make up} better criticism of Liberals!
(...) So instead of legalizing something relatively benign like pharmaceutical grade cocaine or heroin, you have de facto readily available garbage like crack. Crack is cheap, powerfully addictive, and TRULY ruins people's lives quite quickly. What (...) (21 years ago, 29-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Tony Martin case: You can't {make up} better criticism of Liberals!
(...) Um, okay, that's "hard":-) But yes, it is only that kind of "no tolerance" policy that is going to change public behavior. That said, I think it would definitely lead to an increase in the prison population (addressing Richard's qualm), at (...) (21 years ago, 29-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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