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Re: Latter Day Saints (was:Re: God and the Devil and forgiveness (was Re: POV-RAY orange color))
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Tue, 7 Sep 1999 15:34:22 GMT
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Moz (Chris Moseley) wrote:

[1] He belief that everything is property and can be purchased. Even after
the fact. See our discussion of speeding and compensation on Lugnet.

I didn't find that. but I did find THIS: Back on 12/10/98 I said:

Note that it is not enough to assert the right of the self, a fully
formed human recognises that others have rights, and that it is a
prerequisite of a well ordered society that the rights of all be
respected. Someone who doesn't steal because he thinks others are
watching isn't as moral as someone who doesn't steal because he has
internalised that everyone has rights.

While we were talking about stealing, it is hard to conceive of someone
who, starting from natural rights and the notion that everyone has them,
has come to the conclusion that stealing is not OK but has somehow come
to the conclusion that taking a life *is* OK. What is murder if not
stealing the "life liberty and the pursuit of happiness" from another
human being?

Seems pretty clear cut to me.

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  Re: Latter Day Saints (was:Re: God and the Devil and forgiveness (was Re: POV-RAY orange color))
 
Larry Pieniazek <lar@voyager.net> wrote (...) Unfortunately neither can I. I retract the statement. Moz (25 years ago, 8-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: God and the Devil and forgiveness (was Re: POV-RAY orange color)
 
(...) Ok (...) Hey, I thought logic was only meaning_ful_ without feeling. That whole Spock thing, y'know? -- logic with feeling ain't really logic. (...) Hmmm. Well, this is one place where I kind of get confused. See, I believe that God didn't (...) (25 years ago, 31-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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