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		Re: Gotta love Oracle...
(...) But doesn't it take some sensible level of safety (as opposed to absolute safety) to ensure the value of the "life" part of your rights definition? (...) Don't get me wrong: As long as X is NOT a basic human right, I am OK with X being only (...) (23 years ago, 12-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Gotta love Oracle...
(...) But who, then, decides what those rights should be. You? Me? Thinking over it, I would prefer the second ;-) :wq Horst (23 years ago, 10-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		"Centuries old piece of paper" still pretty darn good
In: (URL) Arthur derides the US constitution with these words: (...) Well that "centuries old piece of paper" (parchment, actually) has kept us free, despite his scorn for it. Freer than he is, in fact, although he'll never admit it. He prefers to (...) (23 years ago, 12-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Libertarian comes through for the Terrorists
Sometimes sacrifices have to be made Larry. Innocent people are being sacrificed in Afghanistan right now as we speak. Our armed forces are already risking their lives, and some special ops guys (& gals?) may already have died. If this converts to (...) (23 years ago, 12-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		naiveté (was: Re: Extropianism)
Do I smell a troll? (...) I would like to hear the basis for it too. I know that I'm innately good, but I do see an awful lot of seemingly bad people. In many ways I support the LP platform, but I don't think innate goodness is needed for it to (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Gotta love Oracle...
(...) But that's not what I meant. I was talking about the risk that fundamental rights will be violated, like when someone gets killed. And I do believe that driver's licenses, while they certainly cannot eliminate the risk, still do a good job of (...) (23 years ago, 10-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: This is disgusting!...
(...) Nope, Chris and I were talking about protecting human rights. You, in the text I quoted, are talking about protecting your rights. Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Gotta love Oracle...
(...) No. Might, or mob rule, does not make right. Rights must be paramount to the desires of the mob. I reject democracy when it is unfettered. The majority voting to deny even one single person rights, while democratic, is unjust. I prefer a (...) (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Forget "Dog Bites Man" or "Man Bites Dog"...
Found this in todays wire reports. Thought it was funny. Figured I'd share. So there. BTW, XPD to OTD 'cause it seems someone is always talking about animal rights or gun control or violence or the man bites dog argument...so you'd better look (...) (23 years ago, 11-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: An interesting URL from my favorite newspaper
(...) Sorry if you're having trouble recognising a rhetorical argument there. Try not to fall asleep in class. More slowly for the rhetoric impaired. - They were not fools. Rather, they were brilliant. - There is nothing fundamentally different (...) (25 years ago, 24-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Debunk this?
(...) 'terrorist (...) This seems to assume that the UN is perfect. What if the UN chooses to use force against a government's people or property to make the government tow the line? Isn't that terrorism? Chris (23 years ago, 24-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Put up - or shut up.
(...) Where? Show me the source which you have given that back this: "I reject that even if the sanctions actually caused the death of even 1 child" & "The sanctions do not prevent the flow of food into the country" (...) Scott Arthur. (...) The (...) (23 years ago, 11-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Violence created by presence of guns? (was: Gotta love Oracle...)
(...) While I don't have any knowledge of the laws of Canada and the UK, I'm pretty confident the rights enshrined in the US Constitution are not as well protected in Canada and the UK. (...) The right to bear arms is not the "almost single one (...) (23 years ago, 10-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Violence created by presence of guns? (was: Gotta love Oracle...)
(...) And what about inside them? Are these three nations that homogeneous? (...) OTOH, it can be said the US are too far to the Conservative side... it depends of the reference you take for "Centre". (...) Yes, but the UK did not need a (...) (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Hold your fire?
(...) Scott, I know of the work of Human Rights Watch, but who funds eurasianet? I couldn't find any references on their site. Thanks. There are dozens of tribes in the region and you can't tell who's doing what to whom without a detailed scorecard. (...) (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Gotta love Oracle...
<No greeting on request of Larry ;-), and to not err in the name ;-)=)> (...) Well, my response to this idea may apply less to the US than to Europe: We don't have enough space to build a CHOICE of roads to every destination. So, what remains of my (...) (23 years ago, 10-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Gotta love Oracle...
Hello Larry, it seems you have discussed this earlier than I jumped in. From some earlier posting from you on air safety I assume that you advocate the free market for any type of product, even security. (...) So, if I get you right, you would want (...) (23 years ago, 10-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Gotta love Oracle...
Hello Larry, you must be really opposed to ANY type of regulation, if this is the type of argument you use: (...) No regulation ever solves any problem 100% completely. But don't you think there would be a lot MORE unsafe drivers on the road WITHOUT (...) (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.loc.pt)

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		Re: Violence created by presence of guns? (was: Gotta love Oracle...)
(...) How are they NOT? While they share many similarities, can you seriously say the mindset of the country as a whole is the same between them? Canada and the UK seem to lean too far to the Socialist side compared to the US, IMO. There are many (...) (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Rights to free goods? (was Re: What happened?
(...) There you go again, mixing theory with practice. In _theory_, someone/some committee _with all the information_ making decisions can do better (as measured by the utilitarian principle) than the free market. Much in the same way that in (...) (25 years ago, 22-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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