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Subject:	Re: Violence created by presence of guns? (was: Gotta love Oracle...)
Newsgroups:	lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date:	Tue, 9 Oct 2001 20:52:14 GMT
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Lawrence Wilkes wrote: > "Tom Stangl, VFAQman" <talonts@vfaq.com> wrote in message news:3BC2954C.27A2A300@vfaq.com... > > > > > You're comparing vastly different countries, with different mindsets. Compare > > within a country, especially within the US, and you'll see that states that allow > > easy lawful access to guns tend to have lower violent crime rates. > > How are the US, Canada, and the UK "vastly different countries, with different mindsets"? How are they NOT? While they share many similarities, can you seriously say the mindset of the country as a whole is the same between them? Canada and the UK seem to lean too far to the Socialist side compared to the US, IMO. There are many other differences, and I'm sure many others in here can bring them up if needed. > > Compare apples to apples, not oranges. > > It seems to me the above is comparing apples with apples. Not hardly. Canada and the UK don't have the Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights as their basis (and neither will the US if some foamers have their way!). > Perhaps you only want to compare apples with guns against apples with guns. That would make sense, since we're talking about guns in this thread, you know. -- | Tom Stangl, iPlanet Web Server Technical Support | Sun Microsystems Customer Service | iPlanet Support - http://www.iplanet.com/support/ | Please do not associate my personal views with my employer

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		Re: Violence created by presence of guns? (was: Gotta love Oracle...)
(...) And what about inside them? Are these three nations that homogeneous? (...) OTOH, it can be said the US are too far to the Conservative side... it depends of the reference you take for "Centre". (...) Yes, but the UK did not need a (...) (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

		Re: Violence created by presence of guns? (was: Gotta love Oracle...)
"Tom Stangl" <tom.stangl@sun.com> wrote in message news:3BC3637E.62D9EA...sun.com... (...) I think it depends on the intepretation of 'vast'. US, Iran, Thailand - now thats more like vast. US, Canada, UK - that's just shades of grey in my book. (...) (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

		Re: Violence created by presence of guns? (was: Gotta love Oracle...)
In lugn (...) the Bill of Rights (...) What??? You mean, that since we DON'T WANT your Bill of Rights, or your Declaration of Independance (we did it nicely enough ourselves, thank you without any guns from you prodding us :) (1812 :) - Canada is a (...) (23 years ago, 10-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

		Re: Violence created by presence of guns? (was: Gotta love Oracle...)
(...) Can you bring up any examples that have straight relationship to the topic? The problem with your apples is they lie so close together that if one of them is rotten it can too easily infect the others. However, that does not say that the (...) (23 years ago, 16-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Violence created by presence of guns? (was: Gotta love Oracle...)
"Tom Stangl, VFAQman" <talonts@vfaq.com> wrote in message news:3BC2954C.27A2A3...faq.com... (...) How are the US, Canada, and the UK "vastly different countries, with different mindsets"? (...) It seems to me the above is comparing apples with (...) (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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